wrveres on Wed Nov 24, 2004 wrote:Nationals got JJ Davis in a trade today ... He might need a little more AAA time, but he is certainly better that Endy Chavez ..
I was thinking about this the other night some more, and with the addition of JJ ...
Guillen, Wilkerson, Davis .. Not a bad OF Guzman, Vidro, Schneider .. Good gloves up the middle .. Johnson and Castilla on the Corners ..
If, IF, they can get good pitching out of Livan Patterson (tearing it up in the Dominican leagues too) Armas and Rauch ..
They have a solid shot at .500 It doesn't help that they have to play Philly, Florida and Atlanta on a regular basis though. (Notice how I purposely left out a certain NY team?)
just sub out JJ for Church since he obviouslly won the spring battle.
while I am pretty sure you weren't trying to GTWMA, it sure seems like everybody is trying to call me out lately.
actually, I made many more comments about the Nationals than that one, both good and bad, and I certainly wasn't the only person on November 24th that didn't think they would be very good.
Plus this wasn't the only thread where I called Patterson too .. do a search.
It just get old.
Didn't see the other ones calling you out, wrveres, and I deliberately picked you out from the many Nat doubters, because I know you generally take stuff the right way. Your quote was just the most convenient one.
All of us make a TON of predictions preseason, some that come through and some we'd sooner forget! You should go check out my prediction that the A's will have a top 5 AL offense!!
BTW, these Nats are next to last in the league as far as runs scored, and dead last in HR's. Looks like a team ready to take a dive in the standings fairly quickly here .. IMO
Agreed. They aren't a 100 win team. I'm sticking by the top end of my original guesstimate of 77 to 82 with an outside shot of 85. Given the performance to dat, I'd put them at 80 to 85, with a shot at 88.
BPros adjusted standings have them on track for 80-82
Pythag has them on an 82-80 track.
ESPN's RPI puts them at 88-74.
And an end of the season check-in puts the Nats at 78 wins and counting. Not a contender and, as most of us saw, not nearly as good as their first half, but a decent team with a shot at .500 or better.
Not surprised, talk about the luckiest group of baseball players ever. It would be like a miracle to watch them win a game by more than 3 runs. Going by the Pythagreon W-L record they would probably have one of the worst records in the NL. I was starting to get sick of the Nats doing so well, it was almost turning in to something like the Yanks/Red Sox and Bonds where it would be shoved down our throats, as wrveres would say , by Sportscenter.