Cafe AL MVP voting thread! - Fantasy Baseball Cafe 2014 Fantasy Baseball Cafe
100% Deposit Bonus for Cafe Members!

Return to Baseball Leftovers

Cafe AL MVP voting thread!

Moderator: Baseball Moderators

AL MVP?

Sir Vlad
24
45%
Manny
11
21%
Sheffield
5
9%
Johan
2
4%
Big Papi
4
8%
Tejada
4
8%
Ichiro
1
2%
Pudge
2
4%
someone else...
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 53

Postby Bloody Nipples » Mon Nov 15, 2004 4:47 pm

I'd like to know what the runs created for each player were. I dont know where to find them or I'd post them myself. But without those numbers, I voted for Vlad.
Image
aka enderwiggin
Bloody Nipples
General Manager
General Manager


Posts: 3745
Joined: 28 Feb 2004
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: doing my laundry...

Postby SaintsOfTheDiamond » Mon Nov 15, 2004 4:51 pm

Pudge. I think the whole playoff part is BS. He wins with the same logic as Bonds IMO. Although obviously not at the same level as Bonds, he meant just as much to the Tigers offenseively and handling the pitching staff. Take him off the Tigers and they aren't much better than '03 probably. Vlad is the only one of Vlad/Sheff/Manny that can even have an argument made IMO.
Image
Member #4 of the Inaugural Yadier Molina Fan Club!!!
SaintsOfTheDiamond
Hall of Fame Hero
Hall of Fame Hero

Fantasy ExpertCafe WriterCafe Ranker
Posts: 6480
Joined: 6 May 2004
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: Swiping second

Postby Mookie4ever » Mon Nov 15, 2004 4:54 pm

Bloody Nipples wrote:I'd like to know what the runs created for each player were. I dont know where to find them or I'd post them myself. But without those numbers, I voted for Vlad.


If it matters at all, Sheffield leads when you look at that stupid WinShare stat. :-D

Sheff
A-Rod
Tejada
Vlad
MAtsui
Manny
Johan


http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/wsallead/
Image
Mookie4ever
Head Moderator
Head Moderator

User avatar
ModeratorCafeholicFantasy ExpertCafe WriterMock(ing) DrafterEagle EyeCafe SpotterHockey ModBasketball ModFootball ModMatchup Meltdown ChampionPick 3 Weekly WinnerSweet 16 SurvivorLucky Ladders Weekly Winner
Posts: 19545
(Past Year: 280)
Joined: 17 Dec 2003
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: Hakuna, Montana

Postby ensanimal » Mon Nov 15, 2004 4:58 pm

Bloody Nipples wrote:I'd like to know what the runs created for each player were. I dont know where to find them or I'd post them myself. But without those numbers, I voted for Vlad.


RC RC/27
Ichiro 134 7.80
vlad 133.9 8.29
manny 128.7 8.25
ortiz 127.9 8.08
tejada 118.8 6.56
sheff 117.5 7.26
pudge 96.4 6.96
ensanimal
Moderator
Moderator

User avatar
CafeholicFantasy ExpertMock(ing) DrafterEagle EyeHockey ModPick 3 Weekly WinnerLucky Ladders Weekly Winner
Posts: 10622
(Past Year: 113)
Joined: 14 Dec 2003
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: Tim Horton's

Postby Bloody Nipples » Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:05 pm

Thanks ensanimal. That verifies my vote for Vlad. Ichiro's RC/27 surprised me, but not enough for me to tag him as MVP. His team was awful even with him, and probably couldnt do much worse without him, so I cant give him the MVP. Vlad it is.
Image
aka enderwiggin
Bloody Nipples
General Manager
General Manager


Posts: 3745
Joined: 28 Feb 2004
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: doing my laundry...

Postby LBJackal » Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:05 pm

Madison wrote:
Transmogrifier wrote:I say Manny. I think Vlad will win it, I don't think he should, though... the numbers just aren't there.


8-o

They aren't? :-?

Vlad: .337-39-126 with 124 runs and 15 steals.

Manny: .308-43-130 with 108 runs and 2 steals.

Hmm..... :-?


I went with Vlad. ;-D


Manny's OPS: 1.009
Vlad's OPS: 0.989

There's more than just BA and RBI/R. OPS tells a much more accurate story. The big BA lead Vlad has isn't as important considering Manny has a better OBA and SLG.

I'm not saying Manny should win.... but the numbers are pretty close between them. Vlad will probably take it considering that the Boston votes will be split. And Manny's defense leaves much to be desired (although to his defense, he has to contend with the green monster).
Image

"Jack, will you call me, if you're able?"

"I've got your phone number written, in the back of my Bible."
LBJackal
Hall of Fame Hero
Hall of Fame Hero

User avatar
Pick 3 Weekly Winner
Posts: 9196
Joined: 1 Jul 2003
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: The Hotel Yorba

Postby LCBOY » Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:11 pm

Mookie4ever wrote:I said Tejada.

.311 - 34 - 150 RBI - 107 Runs - 4 SB and all with no protection in the lineup.

Too bad the Orioles did nothing or else he would be a shoe-in. He's going to be like A-Rod with the Rangers - he will put up tons of numbers on a terrible team until they have to give him the MVP one year out of pity.


I thought the "protection" myth was debunked a long time ago?
Last edited by LCBOY on Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.
LCBOY
General Manager
General Manager


Posts: 2838
Joined: 10 Jun 2003
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: On third base trying to steal home.

Postby Bloody Nipples » Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:12 pm

LCBOY wrote:
Mookie4ever wrote:I said Tejada.

.311 - 34 - 150 RBI - 107 Runs - 4 SB and all with no protection in the lineup.

Too bad the Orioles did nothing or else he would be a shoe-in. He's going to be like A-Rod with the Rangers - he will put up tons of numbers on a terrible team until they have to give him the MVP one year out of pity.


I thought the "prtoection" myth was debunked a long time ago?


what protection myth?
Image
aka enderwiggin
Bloody Nipples
General Manager
General Manager


Posts: 3745
Joined: 28 Feb 2004
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: doing my laundry...

Postby Mookie4ever » Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:12 pm

LCBOY wrote:
Mookie4ever wrote:I said Tejada.

.311 - 34 - 150 RBI - 107 Runs - 4 SB and all with no protection in the lineup.

Too bad the Orioles did nothing or else he would be a shoe-in. He's going to be like A-Rod with the Rangers - he will put up tons of numbers on a terrible team until they have to give him the MVP one year out of pity.


I thought the "prtoection" myth was debunked a long time ago?


No, no, its completely bunk.
Image
Mookie4ever
Head Moderator
Head Moderator

User avatar
ModeratorCafeholicFantasy ExpertCafe WriterMock(ing) DrafterEagle EyeCafe SpotterHockey ModBasketball ModFootball ModMatchup Meltdown ChampionPick 3 Weekly WinnerSweet 16 SurvivorLucky Ladders Weekly Winner
Posts: 19545
(Past Year: 280)
Joined: 17 Dec 2003
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: Hakuna, Montana

Postby LCBOY » Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:19 pm

Bloody Nipples wrote:
LCBOY wrote:
Mookie4ever wrote:I said Tejada.

.311 - 34 - 150 RBI - 107 Runs - 4 SB and all with no protection in the lineup.

Too bad the Orioles did nothing or else he would be a shoe-in. He's going to be like A-Rod with the Rangers - he will put up tons of numbers on a terrible team until they have to give him the MVP one year out of pity.


I thought the "prtoection" myth was debunked a long time ago?


what protection myth?

It's been pretty be proven that "protection" doesn't really help a hitter. Well, if Miggy needed "protection" how did he drive in 150 runs? If Miggy had "protection" would he have driven in 180 runs?
LCBOY
General Manager
General Manager


Posts: 2838
Joined: 10 Jun 2003
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: On third base trying to steal home.

PreviousNext

Return to Baseball Leftovers

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Laicekl and 7 guests

Forums Articles & Tips Sleepers Rankings Leagues


Today's Games
Tuesday, Sep. 30
(All times are EST, weather icons show forecast for game time)

Oakland at Kansas City
(8:07 pm)

  • Fantasy Baseball
  • Article Submissions
  • Privacy Statement
  • Site Survey 
  • Contact