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Postby Walden warriors » Tue Nov 23, 2004 5:59 pm

I'm still open to suggestions...
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Postby SaintsOfTheDiamond » Tue Nov 23, 2004 8:34 pm

Walden warriors wrote:No one likes Juan Cruz?


No. :-D I don't think he's sure enough to take over someone else on your team. Maybe I'm wrong, but I would just hope I get someone better in the draft. :*)
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Postby Walden warriors » Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:20 pm

I have two offers on the table for Eric Gagne...

Offer A:
A 2nd and 6th round pick in 2006

Offer B:
A 3rd and a 4th round pick in 2006

Neither really do it for me, so I'm not pulling the trigger. But, I can use them as ammo to generate other offers.

I've also received an offer for Radke...
*A 5th rounder in 2006

I'm in negotiations for Kent. I'll take whatever I can get. I have an offer of Zach Greinke for him. We'll see.

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Postby SaintsOfTheDiamond » Wed Nov 24, 2004 4:02 pm

I don't like dealing players for picks unless they're just completely overpaying. I expecially don't like either of those offers. Is getting two mediocre (2nd rd is pretty good, but 6th) picks worth Gagne? Maybe the 5th for Radke is alright, but I'd want players in return. You can sell him a lot higher than a 5th rounder I would think. :-?
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Postby Pedantic » Thu Nov 25, 2004 5:59 pm

I wouldn't screw around with picks for those caliber players. The best you could hope for is what would amount to a 14th rounder, correct? You should get a lot more.
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Postby Walden warriors » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:20 pm

Pedantic wrote:I wouldn't screw around with picks for those caliber players. The best you could hope for is what would amount to a 14th rounder, correct? You should get a lot more.


Players on five randomly selected teams (this year Anaheim, St. Louis, Mets, Florida, and Cincy) have to be cut. Meaning, this year Pujols, Rolen, Piazza, Benitez, Guerrero, etc. are all available. That is to say, a 5th round pick is a little better than my 18th man.
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Postby Pedantic » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:54 pm

Walden warriors wrote:
Pedantic wrote:I wouldn't screw around with picks for those caliber players. The best you could hope for is what would amount to a 14th rounder, correct? You should get a lot more.


Players on five randomly selected teams (this year Anaheim, St. Louis, Mets, Florida, and Cincy) have to be cut. Meaning, this year Pujols, Rolen, Piazza, Benitez, Guerrero, etc. are all available. That is to say, a 5th round pick is a little better than my 18th man.


Right, forgot about the mandatory cuts. Still, I'd aim for more. Especially for a good pitcher like Radke.
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Postby Walden warriors » Fri Nov 26, 2004 11:21 pm

Pedantic wrote:Right, forgot about the mandatory cuts. Still, I'd aim for more. Especially for a good pitcher like Radke.


This brings up a good question. How old is too old? I'm shopping Kent and Wells, and even if I get nothing they'll be cut, because by the time I'm good again, they'll suck. Radke turns 32 next year. Should he be kept, or traded to the highest bidder?
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Postby Walden warriors » Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:46 pm

Is Radke too old?
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Postby Dawgpound 1613 » Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:56 pm

Walden warriors wrote:Is Radke too old?


I don't think 32 is too old for a pitcher - especially a non-power pitcher. Until about 35 or so, I think non-power pitchers are pretty steady. Above 35, you start to see signs of slippage (e.g. Maddux and Glavine are two examples).

As for Kent, at 37, he's not someone I'd look at rebuilding around. Still good, but you never know when a player might lose it. A good gamble for 2005, but past that, I don't know.
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