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Postby giants8307 » Fri Nov 12, 2004 9:19 pm

DJ was selfish in not wanting to move. He wanted to be the "Yankee shortstop." The best SS in the majors is traded to is team, and he doesn't want him playing that position. It hurt the Yankees, but kept Jeter famous.
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Postby blankman » Fri Nov 12, 2004 9:27 pm

giants8307 wrote:DJ was selfish in not wanting to move. He wanted to be the "Yankee shortstop." The best SS in the majors is traded to is team, and he doesn't want him playing that position. It hurt the Yankees, but kept Jeter famous.


This is a dead topic. There is no point to it. Yankee haters will hate on Jeter for anything they can because he is the face of the franchise. Give up the name-calling.

Your statements are certainly hurt by Jeter's Gold Glove this season as well ;-)
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Postby Zito is God » Fri Nov 12, 2004 10:06 pm

blankman wrote:
giants8307 wrote:DJ was selfish in not wanting to move. He wanted to be the "Yankee shortstop." The best SS in the majors is traded to is team, and he doesn't want him playing that position. It hurt the Yankees, but kept Jeter famous.



Your statements are certainly hurt by Jeter's Gold Glove this season as well ;-)


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Postby giants8307 » Fri Nov 12, 2004 10:07 pm

blankman wrote:
giants8307 wrote:DJ was selfish in not wanting to move. He wanted to be the "Yankee shortstop." The best SS in the majors is traded to is team, and he doesn't want him playing that position. It hurt the Yankees, but kept Jeter famous.


This is a dead topic. There is no point to it. Yankee haters will hate on Jeter for anything they can because he is the face of the franchise. Give up the name-calling.

Your statements are certainly hurt by Jeter's Gold Glove this season as well ;-)


lol, I think we've been over the fraudulent gold glove topic a bit, too. But someone else brought up Jeter, I didn't. I would have been happy to keep jeter out of it. Isn't it weird, though, that a lot of people like rivera and williams etc., but continue to hate jeter? Nobody constantly calls them overrated. Maybe there's more to this than just yankee hating.
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Postby giants8307 » Fri Nov 12, 2004 10:08 pm

Zito is God wrote:
blankman wrote:
giants8307 wrote:DJ was selfish in not wanting to move. He wanted to be the "Yankee shortstop." The best SS in the majors is traded to is team, and he doesn't want him playing that position. It hurt the Yankees, but kept Jeter famous.



Your statements are certainly hurt by Jeter's Gold Glove this season as well ;-)


Check.Mate. :-D


If gold gloves defined defensive prowess, it sure would be...
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Postby slomo007 » Fri Nov 12, 2004 10:10 pm

giants8307 wrote:
Zito is God wrote:
blankman wrote:
giants8307 wrote:DJ was selfish in not wanting to move. He wanted to be the "Yankee shortstop." The best SS in the majors is traded to is team, and he doesn't want him playing that position. It hurt the Yankees, but kept Jeter famous.



Your statements are certainly hurt by Jeter's Gold Glove this season as well ;-)


Check.Mate. :-D


If gold gloves defined defensive prowess, it sure would be...


cold in hell?? :-?
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Postby TheYanks04 » Fri Nov 12, 2004 10:16 pm

Most amusing. How a Soriano debate turns to a Jeter debate. Like Soriano has EVER been anything but a well below avg 2b? Man is a total hack and anyone who has seen him play 2b knows that. He was brutal at SS. Even worse at 3b and is at best below avg at 2b. The reason he does not want to move is simple...as an OF he will not command as much money as a free agent or in arbitration. His numbers amonst OFs would not be elitest. Nor would he be an All Star. This has ZIP to do with his comfort level or love of 2b or anything else. It has even less to do with a nonsensical debate as to which position one excellent fielder (AROD) and one above avg one (Jeter) both of whom are making a boat-load of money already should be playing.
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Postby blankman » Fri Nov 12, 2004 10:29 pm

TheYanks04 wrote:Most amusing. How a Soriano debate turns to a Jeter debate. Like Soriano has EVER been anything but a well below avg 2b? Man is a total hack and anyone who has seen him play 2b knows that. He was brutal at SS. Even worse at 3b and is at best below avg at 2b. The reason he does not want to move is simple...as an OF he will not command as much money as a free agent or in arbitration. His numbers amonst OFs would not be elitest. Nor would he be an All Star. This has ZIP to do with his comfort level or love of 2b or anything else. It has even less to do with a nonsensical debate as to which position one excellent fielder (AROD) and one above avg one (Jeter) both of whom are making a boat-load of money already should be playing.


Don't even bother talking about Jeter.

I will argue however, that Soriano's position is very understandable in my position. To me, it IS about comfort with his new position, a new position he has spent countless hours trying to learn. Now you want to ask him to learn yet another position? I wouldn't dream of calling him selfish for that.
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Postby TheYanks04 » Fri Nov 12, 2004 10:36 pm

$$$$$$

Please. If you think this guy is concerned with anything else you are being overly generous in your interpretation of Soriano's character. Like this guy takes pride in his fieldiing?...like he can't shag a fly ball as ineptly as he plays 2b? $$$ mean more to him than helping out a potential team to win. He has every right to not want to switch positions. But this is not Bret Boone or Robbie Alomar in his prime we are talking about.
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Postby blankman » Fri Nov 12, 2004 11:09 pm

TheYanks04 wrote:$$$$$$

Please. If you think this guy is concerned with anything else you are being overly generous in your interpretation of Soriano's character. Like this guy takes pride in his fieldiing?...like he can't shag a fly ball as ineptly as he plays 2b? $$$ mean more to him than helping out a potential team to win. He has every right to not want to switch positions. But this is not Bret Boone or Robbie Alomar in his prime we are talking about.


The man is 28. He's no longer a young prospect. He's an established baseball player. He has played 2B his whole ML career. Its his position to remain in. I don't think he's being at all selfish. What Alex did was purely exceptional, not something that should be expected of any player. Its his choice and he's earned that choice.
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