Cornbread Maxwell wrote:So you guys all agree that Torre should be included on the list?
I guess I just dont see why - maybe some of you can explain to me why falling short of expectations and losing with the highest payrolled team ever constitutes a nomination for manager of the yr.
If you consider that his pitching staff was injured/pathetic all year, he didn't do too bad of a job IMO. I agree he probably shouldn't be on the list, but you have to remember the Yankee bias that is going to exist in all awards.
I was one of the people that wrote the Braves off last preseason (oops ), so what Cox did with nothing is incredible.
What Showalter did with the Rangers OF and pitching staff was incredible as well. Everyone predicted last place and sub .500. The Rangers actually had a shot down the stretch.
I agree with both choices.
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No complaints. Torre didn't do much, but I don't think any AL manager really does. Trammell was also the manager last year when they were horrible, and they added some guys this year and were a lot better. I think it's more hitting coaches, pitching coaches, etc, that help player improvement, not so much the manager. Although they do get a lot of undeserved credit and blame when things go good or bad.
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