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by **kentx12** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 3:01 pm

Has anyone heard the results yet? Cant find anything about it on ESPN.

by **SaintsOfTheDiamond** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 3:27 pm

Here ya go. ;-D

Cox and Showalter

by **Pogotheostrich** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 3:30 pm

I can't argue with either. ;-D

by **Pedantic** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 3:32 pm

Thank you! God, finally I feel vindicated! ;-D

by **Cornbread Maxwell** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 4:03 pm

How should I feel about Trammel not getting a vote?

All he did was win 29 more games in 2004 than 2003 (.265 winning % to .444) - basically the greatest improvement for any ML team ever.

His team went from dead last or close in many offensive catagories to top 10. Take BA or SLG% as examples.

But - there you have Torre sitting up there - I guess you can give him credit for dealing with egos, but other than that, how exactly is he worthy of manager of the yr voting?

The rest of the AL managers that recieved votes are solid choices - all of them raised the bar with the talent they had - but I cannot accept Torre in that group - no way.

Congrats to the majority of managers that were recognized.

by **Baseballer02** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 4:05 pm

Finally some awards given out that most people agree with. ;-D

by **kentx12** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 4:54 pm

Glad to see Cox got what he has deserved for the last few years... ;-D

by **slomo007** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 5:37 pm

Agreed, it's nice to see some justified awards.

by **Cornbread Maxwell** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 5:48 pm

So you guys all agree that Torre should be included on the list?

I guess I just dont see why - maybe some of you can explain to me why falling short of expectations and losing with the highest payrolled team ever constitutes a nomination for manager of the yr.

by **thetongueofire** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 5:48 pm

Cox and Showalter were pretty much consenus picks... ;-D

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