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Postby Ballwreckers » Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:17 am

I was just checking Schilling's stats and he has put some good #'s, but do you think he is Hall of Fame material? He is close to 200 wins and 3000 K's and has 3 WS apperances(will be Three) and one ring to his credit.
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:20 am

Yes. Earlier in his career this would have been a hard question but since playing in Arizona and Boston, he makes it easily.
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Postby slomo007 » Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:22 am

Yeah, I don't think it's close either.
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Re: Curt Schilling, Future Hall of Famer?

Postby LCBOY » Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:55 am

Ballwreckers wrote:I was just checking Schilling's stats and he has put some good #'s, but do you think he is Hall of Fame material? He is close to 200 wins and 3000 K's and has 3 WS apperances(will be Three) and one ring to his credit.


I'm not so sure. There are not as lot of HoF pitchers with less than 200 wins. Also he's had several crappy seasons

1994: 2-8
1995: 7-5
1996: 9-10
2000: 11-12
2003: 8-9

He's also never won a Cy Young award.


Baseball-Reference.com tracks Similarity Scores, Black Ink Scores, HoF Monitor scores, and HoF Standards scores.


Here are the 10 most "similar" pitchers to Schilling:

1. Kevin Brown (938)
2. David Cone (921)
3. Jimmy Key (914)
4. John Candelaria (907)
5. Bret Saberhagen (903)
6. Orel Hershiser (892)
7. Lew Burdette (875)
8. Luis Tiant (872)
9. Dave Stieb (872)
10. Phil Niekro (870) *

*Hall of Famer

This not really an impressive list in terms of the Hall of Fame.
However, Schilling does score well on the Black Ink Test with 40 points (An average HoFer has 40 points). He scores well on the Hall of Fame Monitor with 140. A player is a viable HoF candidate at 100 points. Of course Schilling is still pitching. He should end up with about 220-240 wins. This would make his candidacy much stronger.

HoF voters like to see lots of wins and stikeouts in a career.


http://www.baseball-reference.com/s/schilcu01.shtml
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Postby Ballwreckers » Fri Oct 22, 2004 11:08 am

When will be the next time we will see a 300 winner? It will be sometime before that happens, so it should be put into consideration if someone is looked at for the fame.
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Postby stumpak » Fri Oct 22, 2004 11:45 am

Not to mention the fact that his game 6 performance with mythologized and lionized to ridiculous proportions not just by Sox fans but the vast legions of Yankee haters across the US. He will probably pick up a few HoF votes he wouldn't have gotten otherwise just for beating the Yankees in game 6. Just watch, when he is up for HoF election, you will see a lot of people arguing that Game 6 is what puts him over the top, I can see the Gammons column already.
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Re: Yeah but,

Postby LCBOY » Fri Oct 22, 2004 11:47 am

Ballwreckers wrote:When will be the next time we will see a 300 winner? It will be sometime before tha happens, so it should be put into consideration if someone is looked at for the fame.


If Glavine or Randy Johnson don't reach 300 wins it will probably be about 2015-2016, at the earliest, before we could see another 300 game winner. Mulder, Hudson, Oswalt, or Sabathia seem to have the best chances as of RIGHT NOW.
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Postby raiders_umpire » Fri Oct 22, 2004 12:22 pm

i think he is pretty certain of being in the hall of fame....... and the game 6 win verse the yanks with the blood on the sock will just make it that more memorable of him when he is HOF eligible.....
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Postby LCBOY » Fri Oct 22, 2004 1:09 pm

raiders_umpire wrote:i think he is pretty certain of being in the hall of fame....... and the game 6 win verse the yanks with the blood on the sock will just make it that more memorable of him when he is HOF eligible.....


How so? :-°
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Fri Oct 22, 2004 1:24 pm

LCBOY, You don't think big game victories like game 6 this year and the WS against NYY carry more weight with the HOF voters?
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