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Postby Lofunzo » Wed Sep 15, 2004 12:57 pm

Irish wrote:I think you should do it. He's taking advantage of the rules, you should do the same thing. It's too bad your commish put no IP limit. :-t


Spot starting daily is a strategy used, especially with no limits in place. Churning is against the rules. You don't see the difference??
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Postby Madison » Wed Sep 15, 2004 3:03 pm



That's the thread to read. ;-D
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Postby Irish » Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:01 pm

Lofunzo wrote:
Irish wrote:I think you should do it. He's taking advantage of the rules, you should do the same thing. It's too bad your commish put no IP limit. :-t


Spot starting daily is a strategy used, especially with no limits in place. Churning is against the rules. You don't see the difference??


No, I see the difference. Yahoo only allows you to pick up and drop 2 guys a day. So if they allow that, then do it. I use spot starting alot because my league has no IP limit. Although I use it, I would be pissed if it was used against me. That's actually what got me started in using it in the first place. But if Yahoo allows those 2 pick-up/drops then take advantage. Your playing to win, your not hacking the system. Your doing what Yahoo allows you to do to have the best shot of winning. I also download free music. I must be going to hell. :-t
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Postby Lofunzo » Wed Sep 15, 2004 5:06 pm

Irish wrote:
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Irish wrote:I think you should do it. He's taking advantage of the rules, you should do the same thing. It's too bad your commish put no IP limit. :-t


Spot starting daily is a strategy used, especially with no limits in place. Churning is against the rules. You don't see the difference??


No, I see the difference. Yahoo only allows you to pick up and drop 2 guys a day. So if they allow that, then do it. I use spot starting alot because my league has no IP limit. Although I use it, I would be pissed if it was used against me. That's actually what got me started in using it in the first place. But if Yahoo allows those 2 pick-up/drops then take advantage. Your playing to win, your not hacking the system. Your doing what Yahoo allows you to do to have the best shot of winning. I also download free music. I must be going to hell. :-t


All that I'm saying is that there's a big difference in picking up 2 players each day to play them and picking up and dropping 2 players daily and then dropping them immediately in order to stop another team from picking them up. Pick up players and use them.
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Postby Fpower » Wed Sep 15, 2004 5:45 pm

I've never heard the term churning before, but it doesn't seem any more unethical than somebody picking up 8 new starting pitchers every day and thus making it impossible to compete in the Ks and Wins categories. That doesn't seem to be in the "spirit" of the game either to me, so I say do whatever you can to stop it.

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Postby LBJackal » Wed Sep 15, 2004 6:54 pm

Well what are your leagues rules? Is churning not allowed? Because if there is no rule against it, then you're only doing what he's doing: attempting to win cheaply.

If you are using Yahoo's default rules, it is NOT illegal to churn. Read the thread about it if you like......... a lot of people here CLAIM it is, but according to yahoo's rules, it is LEGAL. Whether yall like it or not }:-)
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Postby GiantFan666 » Thu Sep 16, 2004 7:57 am

This is more or less completely off-topic but pitcher churning questions are to Sept as when is Yahoo starting signups for fantasy baseball is to February!
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Postby Madison » Thu Sep 16, 2004 10:48 am

GiantFan666 wrote:This is more or less completely off-topic but pitcher churning questions are to Sept as when is Yahoo starting signups for fantasy baseball is to February!


You know, it might not be a bad idea to make one great big thread dealing with this next year and then just combine any new threads about it into the big thread. I'll give it some thought. :-)
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Postby Chopper » Thu Sep 16, 2004 11:59 am

Makes sense to me, Mad. I was looking for 'churning' and 'spot-starting' definitions this morning for the other active thread and easily found 20+ pages on the topic. Searched on 'churning', 'spot' and 'starting'.
Hard to imagine that there's much left to be said.

Although, ......I'm certain that LBJ could reignite the discussion without too much trouble. :-b
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Postby josebach » Thu Sep 16, 2004 1:25 pm

LBJackal wrote:If you are using Yahoo's default rules, it is NOT illegal to churn. Read the thread about it if you like......... a lot of people here CLAIM it is, but according to yahoo's rules, it is LEGAL. Whether yall like it or not }:-)


According to your misguided interpretation of the rules it's Legal. I was bored so I typed up the scenario and sent it to Yahoo. LBJackal thinks it's legal to pick up players and drop them in order to hinder the other teams in the league from being able to pick them up. We'll find out what Yahoo thinks shortly. :-)
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