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Postby prose749 » Wed Sep 15, 2004 3:51 am

I am in a h2h money league that pays really well.

We have no limit on innings pitched for some reason and it could hurt me. My opponent is picking up pitchers everyday to fill his starting rotation. If he does this he will win k, wins for sure. His team is built around hitting(he will probly win every category)and just needs to pull off one pitching category to win. Would it be wrong if I picked up every available pitcher each day and then dropped him so they would be unavailable and he could not use them. Would that be wrong on my behalf or just good strategy? I don't want to be an ass but don't want to lose the money. He is using the no limit innings against me why couldn't I use this against him?
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Postby shortsavage » Wed Sep 15, 2004 5:49 am

I believe that moves along the lines that you speak of would be far more unethical than your opponent’s frequent pickups. We are well into the season now. If someone was using a strategy that you believe put him or her at a huge advantage, you should have evolved and tried to use it too. Knowing the rules since day one, you may disagree with the way that they were constructed, but I see it more honorable to settle for a lower finish than skew things and perhaps muddy up relationships.

Biting your tongue for the moment, you should have plenty of heat to bring when it comes time to formulate the league's rules for next season.
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Postby raiders_umpire » Wed Sep 15, 2004 7:36 am

shortsavage wrote:I believe that moves along the lines that you speak of would be far more unethical than your opponent’s frequent pickups. We are well into the season now. If someone was using a strategy that you believe put him or her at a huge advantage, you should have evolved and tried to use it too. Knowing the rules since day one, you may disagree with the way that they were constructed, but I see it more honorable to settle for a lower finish than skew things and perhaps muddy up relationships.

Biting your tongue for the moment, you should have plenty of heat to bring when it comes time to formulate the league's rules for next season.


i agree here as well ;-D
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Postby Mugrila » Wed Sep 15, 2004 7:52 am

picking up players and dropping them so another team cannot use them is called roster churning and it is against the rules. what he's doing is within the rules but it sometimes backfires.
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Postby Hbj79 » Wed Sep 15, 2004 8:07 am

I don't think he mentioned what kind of league he is in. Therefore it seems to me that referring to "the rules" makes no sense. Obviously there are no universal rules that apply to all fantasy baseball pools.
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Postby ensanimal » Wed Sep 15, 2004 11:33 am

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Postby AcidRock23 » Wed Sep 15, 2004 11:41 am

I don't really think that this is an effective strategy as sooner or later, he will guess wrong and get smoked. If he's been lucky for a while, he's probably about due to lose.

If you want to stop him from getting particular guys though, what you might do that I wouldn't have a problem with ethically, would be to drop some of your scrub hitters, pick his dudes up and play them in your lineup, even benching your 'allstars' to do so.
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Postby Lofunzo » Wed Sep 15, 2004 12:02 pm

Hbj79 wrote:I don't think he mentioned what kind of league he is in. Therefore it seems to me that referring to "the rules" makes no sense. Obviously there are no universal rules that apply to all fantasy baseball pools.


Actually, it doesn't matter to me what type of league it is but he did mention it was H2H. As was mentioned, this is called churning and it is against the rules in Yahoo leagues. If he isn't playing a Yahoo league, then it is unethical at best.
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Postby Irish » Wed Sep 15, 2004 12:44 pm

I think you should do it. He's taking advantage of the rules, you should do the same thing. It's too bad your commish put no IP limit. :-t
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Postby The Jury » Wed Sep 15, 2004 12:52 pm

AcidRock23 wrote:I don't really think that this is an effective strategy as sooner or later, he will guess wrong and get smoked. If he's been lucky for a while, he's probably about due to lose.

If you want to stop him from getting particular guys though, what you might do that I wouldn't have a problem with ethically, would be to drop some of your scrub hitters, pick his dudes up and play them in your lineup, even benching your 'allstars' to do so.


The cheap dude in this guy's league can't really "guess wrong" as he is just going for the categories which are totals, such as strikeouts and wins.

The solution to this for next season is either a transactions or IP limit, but I'm not sure what the immediate solution is :-?
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