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Postby Strasil42 » Sat Aug 28, 2004 5:00 pm

(such as shortened 3 point line, hand checking rules & well defined rules regarding illegal defenses)."


So these were all changed just so the league could help out jordan individually??? Everyone during his time had the same advantages, and yet he still dominated.

Still hard to fault jordan for rules changing that he doesnt have control over...
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Postby raiders_umpire » Sat Aug 28, 2004 5:10 pm

Amazinz wrote:It is stupid to disregard the fact that NBA rule changes elevated Jordan's game to another level. That's not to say he wasn't great but he was indeed made greater than he was.



i will still take him down by 2 with 5 seconds left in game 7 of finals, over anybody playing today and anybody playing in the past(including wilt, as he could not hit free throws) for the final shot to tie the game......cant think of anybody i would rather have even though i was a huge larry bird fan growing up inlife.........
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Postby bleach168 » Sat Aug 28, 2004 5:12 pm

I don't think it's right that star players get borderline calls in their favor. Umpires and refs are paid to enforce fair play. They should do their job.
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Postby Amazinz » Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:03 pm

Strasil42 wrote:
(such as shortened 3 point line, hand checking rules & well defined rules regarding illegal defenses)."


So these were all changed just so the league could help out jordan individually??? Everyone during his time had the same advantages, and yet he still dominated.

Still hard to fault jordan for rules changing that he doesnt have control over...

The hand check rules were definitely put in place because of Jordan. If you remember at the time sports writers were jokingly dubbing it the "Jordan Bill".

When you compare Jordan to some of the greats who came before him the rule changes are a very valid argument and far from stupid.

This does nothing to diminish the fact that Jordan was the most dominate player of the modern game.
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Postby donut » Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:07 pm

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Amazinz wrote:It is stupid to disregard the fact that NBA rule changes elevated Jordan's game to another level. That's not to say he wasn't great but he was indeed made greater than he was.



i will still take him down by 2 with 5 seconds left in game 7 of finals, over anybody playing today and anybody playing in the past(including wilt, as he could not hit free throws) for the final shot to tie the game......cant think of anybody i would rather have even though i was a huge larry bird fan growing up inlife.........


kobe and reggie miller are close. and kobe has another 10 yrs left. also there was a reason they called jerry west Mr. Clutch
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Postby Strasil42 » Sat Aug 28, 2004 7:06 pm

kobe and reggie miller are close. and kobe has another 10 yrs left. also there was a reason they called jerry west Mr. Clutch


Close is still a long way off.
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Postby Madison » Sun Aug 29, 2004 1:31 am

donut wrote:you have the most athletic people in the world playing a game where that athleticism is displayed in every play


I don't really watch hockey, but I'd say hockey players are at least equal to basketball players when it comes to athleticism. Just my opinion though. ;-)
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Postby raiders_umpire » Sun Aug 29, 2004 1:06 pm

donut wrote:
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Amazinz wrote:It is stupid to disregard the fact that NBA rule changes elevated Jordan's game to another level. That's not to say he wasn't great but he was indeed made greater than he was.



i will still take him down by 2 with 5 seconds left in game 7 of finals, over anybody playing today and anybody playing in the past(including wilt, as he could not hit free throws) for the final shot to tie the game......cant think of anybody i would rather have even though i was a huge larry bird fan growing up inlife.........


kobe and reggie miller are close. and kobe has another 10 yrs left. also there was a reason they called jerry west Mr. Clutch



what????? kobe and reggie arent even near what MJ could do....now yes west is probably #2 or #3 on my list but he aint close enough to MJ to warrant consideration imo.....
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Postby Arlo » Mon Aug 30, 2004 6:05 am

buffalobillsrul2002 wrote:I think that Wilt was a better player than Jordan.

... and Russell was better than Wilt.

(Ooh, am I going to get it for that... ;-) )
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Postby pbeall100281 » Wed Sep 01, 2004 12:17 am

bleach168 wrote:The original poster's point was that Jordan would not be near as great if he didn't receive all the referee bias. He never said Jordan wasn't great.


Thank you for paying attention and pointing this out.

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