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Postby WhiteHot » Sat Aug 07, 2004 9:37 pm

pomplona's finest wrote:Since I have barely ever seen ZIG around here, at least since I started to frequently visit the cafe. How did his bold predictions become well known? And when did he make them, before the season, during his funk, or both?


He didn't just make predictions. He thoroughly insulted Santana and said he was a bad pitcher that will never make it. The reason that everyone brings it up is that once Santana was doing bad, he would go into each thread and comment about how right he was. Now, when Santana is god, ZIG is nowhere to be seen. However, I did see him in one thread saying that people misunderstood what he said and he really thought Santana was good, but he thought he was going to be good next year, not this year.

Everyone would put it to rest if ZIG just said he was wrong and took it like a man. Instead, he took the most cowardly approach possible.
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Postby pomplona's finest » Sat Aug 07, 2004 10:18 pm

I don't know about Zito is God, but it seems to me a regular wouldn't just abandon the cafe from a botched prediction. I bet he will return during the offseason, I guess we will have to wait and see.
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Postby TheRock » Sat Aug 07, 2004 10:45 pm

Tavish wrote:
Baseballer02 wrote:Is it just me or does it seem Zito is God has fallen off of the cafe planet since Johan's great two months?


Further proof of my theory!!!! ;-)


That is freakin' hysterical!

Let me add a corollary: The instant Santana ever allows more than 3 runs and strikes out less than 10, or gets hurt, ZIG will instantaneously reappear in the cafe, posting triumphant I told you so's in every Santana thread from the past 3 months.
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Postby jumpman8288 » Sat Aug 07, 2004 11:29 pm

Geez, in one day he upped is hits in the last month from 10 to 17. I guess I sorta jinxed it... O:-)
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Postby titanut » Sat Aug 07, 2004 11:38 pm

Perhaps ZIG has vanished because not only was he wrong about
Santana, but Zito is Garbage is a more accurate description of his
God. Talk about a double whammy! BTW, I traded B Giles and
C Wilson for Santana!!
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Postby LBJackal » Sun Aug 08, 2004 11:41 am

pomplona's finest wrote:I don't know about Zito is God, but it seems to me a regular wouldn't just abandon the cafe from a botched prediction.


Well, this in fact does seem to be the case. He was pretty much a regular who entered the Bermuda Triangle on June 9th, the start of Santana's assault on the American League. Zito being worse than Loaiza for most of the season probably didn't make him any more anxious to return here either :-o
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Postby TheRawDAWG » Sun Aug 08, 2004 12:01 pm

I remember ZIG's post of predictions.....I found it extremely funny at the time and find it more so now. I believe he said Santana, Schmidt, Chavez and Soriano were all going to be worth less than where they would get drafted (I'm using nicer language). In my eyes Santana and Schmidt are the favourites for the Cy Young awards, while Chavez has torn up the league and would be near the top in numerous categories had he not been out 6 weeks with an injury. Of course, Soriano isn't having his best year but he's still the best 2nd bagger by far and not hitting near the .260 I believe someone expected of him.
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Postby TheRawDAWG » Sun Aug 08, 2004 12:08 pm

Another thing about Zito is God's sudden disappearance. He was actually talking to the mods about becoming a mod for one of the forums. He said something along the lines of 'I'm on here numerous times a day' so he would be able to monitor things very well. It just seems very strange to me that because he was SO wrong about something that he would just vanish from a place he frequented so often. Just seems gutless to me. If you can't come on here and say 'Wow I was way off. Let me have it guys.' then something is wrong with you.

I think I was wrong once and I'm still here........can't remember that once or if it really happened but if it did or if it does I'm sure I wont run away from it. Maybe one day we'll find out. :-D
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Postby LBJackal » Sun Aug 08, 2004 1:08 pm

TheRawDAWG wrote:I remember ZIG's post of predictions.....I found it extremely funny at the time and find it more so now. I believe he said Santana, Schmidt, Chavez and Soriano were all going to be worth less than where they would get drafted (I'm using nicer language). In my eyes Santana and Schmidt are the favourites for the Cy Young awards, while Chavez has torn up the league and would be near the top in numerous categories had he not been out 6 weeks with an injury. Of course, Soriano isn't having his best year but he's still the best 2nd bagger by far and not hitting near the .260 I believe someone expected of him.


All that seems accurate........... except Soriano being the #1 2B. Look no further than his MI partner Michael Young for somebody whose been better. Mark Loretta is pretty close to Soriano's production, too. Other than that 2B's have been a bust this year.

And I think we should leave ZIG alone now....... he might not feel welcome back, which IMO he is. If somebody's wrong about something they shouldn't feel unwelcome. If at the end of the year Loaiza has a high 4's ERA, I won't vanish from the face of the earth, even though some people might not have a problem with that :-D

If anything, he's a better person for it, since he's learned if you make bold predictions like that you might get burned. Like I will with Loaiza, despite my fairly accurate predictions for Nathan (compared him to Gagne before the season), Zito (said he'd suck - so did everybody else though), Ensberg (said he stinks, Lamb was better and should be the starter), Rhodes (said he'd be bust of the year and was not a top reliever), among others. People only remember the bad so don't take it to heart when they rip you for it.

If anybody ever notices my comment on Ben Sheets in the 2004 predictions forum I might be lynched :-o
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Postby Madbomber » Sun Aug 08, 2004 1:09 pm

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