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Postby strats36 » Wed Aug 04, 2004 10:55 am

I am trying to decide between Wickman and Hermanson and discovered some weird stats. I was looking at pitch counts 1-15 and 16-30. The most important for a closer.

Hermanson's pitch count 1-15 stats:

14.1 IP, 13 K, 2 BB, 1 HR, .91 WHIP. Nice. ;-D

Hold on a minute though, 13 R, 8.16 ERA!! :-o Where did those runs come from with that WHIP, BB/K, K/9 and only one HR??

Pitch count 16-30 is not that unusual.

15 IP, 13 K, 3 BB, 1 HR, 1.53 WHIP, and 4.80 ERA. Still a nice BB/K and K/9 though.

Anyone have idea why his ERA is so high with such a low WHIP?


Oh yeah, Wickman's stats:

1-15: 6 IP, 7 K, 2 BB, 0 HR 0.00 ERA ;-D 1.83 WHIP :-t
16-30: 3 IP, 2K, 2 BB, 0 HR, 12.00 ERA, 2.00 WHIP :-t

P.S. In 18 starts, Hermanson has allowed runs in the first inning only twice. Good sign?
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Postby FantasyFreak » Wed Aug 04, 2004 2:17 pm

hmm interesting stats there, thanks for the info
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Postby Pedantic » Wed Aug 04, 2004 2:25 pm

Maybe he puts the runs on base in 1-15 and lets them score in 16-30. :-b
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Postby shortsavage » Wed Aug 04, 2004 2:37 pm

Where did you get your splits strats36?
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Re: Hermanson's Bizarre Stats

Postby StlSluggers » Wed Aug 04, 2004 2:45 pm

strats36 wrote:Hermanson's pitch count 1-15 stats:

14.1 IP, 13 K, 2 BB, 1 HR, .91 WHIP. Nice. ;-D

Hold on a minute though, 13 R, 8.16 ERA!! :-o Where did those runs come from with that WHIP, BB/K, K/9 and only one HR??


Not to say you're wrong, but those R/ERA numbers seem way wrong. If you do the math, he must have allowed 11 hits and 2 BB to get that WHIP. That means that all 13 baserunners he allowed scored.

That seems really fishy to me.
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Postby shortsavage » Wed Aug 04, 2004 2:48 pm

I am looking on CBS now, they have Hermanson's first inning ERA as 2.50. Furthermore, in the first inning he has 16Ks in a total of 18 innings and a WHIP of 1.00.

He has only given up 5 runs in the first inning this season (all earned). So, there is no way that he can have an ERA of 8.16 through pitches 1-15.
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Postby Tavish » Wed Aug 04, 2004 2:50 pm

Low WHIP high ERA usually means that a pitcher gives up hits in bunches. Its the same concept as a pitcher with a high WHIP and low ERA, they spread out the hits/walks not letting teams get real rallies going. Kind of scary to have a closer that gives up big innings.
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Postby Pedantic » Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:00 pm

Oh, well, it's not strats' fault. This is what Yahoo has in Hermanson's profile:

Code: Select all
              IP   H  R  ER HR BB K  ERA  WHIP  BAA   
Pitch 1-15    14.1 11 13 13 1  2  13 8.16 0.91 .212   
Pitch 16-30   15.0 20 8  8  1  3  13 4.80 1.53 .313   
Pitch 31-45   20.0 18 8  7  3  4  13 3.15 1.10 .240   
Pitch 46-60   17.1 20 8  8  2  9  8  4.15 1.67 .290   
Pitch 61-75   16.2 19 10 9  5  6  10 4.86 1.50 .279   
Pitch 76-90   12.1 15 6  5  1  5  9  3.65 1.62 .313   
Pitch 91-105  6.2  5  4  3  0  4  6  4.05 1.35 .217   
Pitch 106-20  1.2  2  0  0  0  2  2  0.00 2.40 .286   


Edit: Let me clean some of this up...ah, finally, perfect. :*)
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Postby Rico The Retard » Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:06 pm

well thats yahoo for ya
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Postby shortsavage » Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:24 pm

I didn't know that anyone used Yahoo for stats :-o .
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