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by **nsulham** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 11:09 pm

Anyone catch it at all? I picked him up this week and put him in (2 starts vs. KC and Cle)

Three runs against KC I could have done without but thanks to the ChiSox offense, he got the win so I can't complain too much.

Did he look like a different pitcher now that he's out of NY? Was he still tipping pitches at all?

by **dundeeslugger** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 11:27 pm

actually he should only be charged with 2 runs. I don't know why, but I'll take it. I am glad I chose him over Lackey for this spot start.

by **nsulham** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 11:40 pm

Yeah my bad, only two ER. I looked at the ERA and saw 3.00, that's why I thought he gave up three ER.

Not a bad start at all I guess.

by **thetongueofire** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:40 am

just wonder how the boss'll feel if Contreras turns it around and Loiza continues on his path of utter mediocrity.

anyways, spot start him for all hes worth until Friday the 13th. :-D

by **rmeesig** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 10:28 am

guys, it was the Royals...of course he did well. Not a good barometer for the rest of the season.

I don't buy the "tipping pitches" argument either. Was he tipping pitches to some team but not others?? I think he just lacks the discipline to be a pitcher. Sure, he has electric stuff, but has no idea how to use it.

by **thetongueofire** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:29 am

rmeesig wrote:guys, it was the Royals...of course he did well. Not a good barometer for the rest of the season.

isnt it gonna be that way for the most part tho.... ya know.. Royals, Det, Cle, Min (mostly impatient teams)... vs. Red Sox, D-Rays, Blue Jays, Orioles (more patient hitting teams). he has more trouble pitching to teams that are willing to take walks. thats pretty much my only big reason for thinking he'll be better.

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