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Postby tlef316 » Sun Aug 01, 2004 11:58 pm

"What a sterotype. Are you saying this because of Clemens? That's one person and the only reason he is booed is because he went to the yanks. I'm sure you guys would cheer Jeter if he went to the Sox..."

yeah, im saying that just becuase of clemens. clemens didnt go to the yankees by choice, nor did he go directly to NY from boston(stop in toronto) clemens was an absolute warrior for Boston and the sox fans still boo the guy like he was bill buckner. david wells probably cost the yanks the WS last year but the yankees fans gave him a standing O earlier this year. and as far as Jeter going to the red sox, the yankees would never make the mistake of trading " the face of the franchise" as one of your fellow Bosox fans put it.

give it up. epstein made a horrible deal and now boston is piling on nomar in an effort to try to downplay how badly the cubbies fleeced the sox.
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Postby nsulham » Mon Aug 02, 2004 12:22 am

tlef316 wrote:
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tlef316 wrote:yeah, im sure Nomar was gonna tank the season with free agency looming over the winter ;-)

boston tried to to get A-rod to spite the yankees, and in doing so, they spit in Nomar's face. i dont blame him for doing what he did. The Boston media is notoriously ruthless and Nomar was sick of it. i dont blame the guy for wanting out of boston. he may have put the sox in a bad trading position, but what he did was no more classless than their blatant disregard for him during the A-Rod dealings.


Wow, your not making any sense...did you remember that he was offered an extension and turned it down??? I think it was 60 million over 4 years?...what the hell is wrong with that? If he had excepted it then we wouldn't even be discussing this. I don't see anything wrong with going after the best player in baseball (man I hate to say that) because your star player turned down a very fair offer.


wow, just becuase the guy turns down extention doesnt give a team the right to make such a big deal about the A-rod dealings. his own freaking teammate (kevin millar) went on ESPN live in prime time and openly said he'd prefer to have A-rod over nomar. Nomar was completely alienated from that team and he had every right to screw them over in return.

figures that all the nomar "haters" would emerge from red sox nation after he leaves. that's the diference between sox fans and yank fans. we cheer our returning players for their accomplshments(wells, soriano) if nomar visits boston next year, he'll get a standing boo from the fenway crowd.


Hey tlef, nice avatar. Where's the Randy Johnson one? Oh that's right, he's still in Arizona and NOT a Yankee. And neither is Beltran.


i knew RJ would never be a yankee(no prospects) and beltran still has a very good chance of becoming a yankee this winter. why dont you make yourself a nice doug mientkiewicz or dave roberts avatar? im sure they will have a huge impact down the stretch :-b i hope theo and the rest of the redsox management have fun playing golf in october after oakland or anaheim beat them out for the WC


Dude it's amazing to me that you can disappear for stretches at a time and then come back and talk so much noise.

If I wanted to have a Doug M. or Roberts avatar, it would make sense and be fine. Why? Because they're actually on the team. Beltran isn't a Yankee. Period. The future is the future but right now, in this little thing we're living in now which is called the present, he's an Astro. Not a Yankee.

You would think you'd learn something from rmeesig before you spout off arrogant guarantees.

give it up. epstein made a horrible deal and now boston is piling on nomar in an effort to try to downplay how badly the cubbies fleeced the sox.


Give what up? I don't recall anyone saying Theo made a good move there and no one has supported it. The fact is he made the best of a bad situation and got what he could. If the team gave up on Nomar, Nomar equally gave up on the team.

The Sox have faults and holes, sure. But so do the Yankees. Good luck with that aging, injured rotation :-t

Oh and feel free to keep coming with the guarantees because I'll be the first one to bring them back up when they turn out to be wrong.
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Postby Pokey Reese MVP » Mon Aug 02, 2004 12:28 am

tlef316 wrote:give it up. epstein made a horrible deal and now boston is piling on nomar in an effort to try to downplay how badly the cubbies fleeced the sox.


I have looked at the analysis of these trades and it seems every writer agrees that it was a good trade for Boston. I'm not talking about journalists writing for the boston globe. Plus SOSH the place I trust most has pointed out a ton about the deal. At first it was negative but as people thought it out, the trade began to make sense. This wasn't an amazing deal like the cubs pulled off, but most people rank it higher then the Yankees deal for Loiza.
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Postby BoSox4life » Mon Aug 02, 2004 12:30 am

Give what up? I don't recall anyone saying Theo made a good move there and no one has supported it. The fact is he made the best of a bad situation and got what he could. If the team gave up on Nomar, Nomar equally gave up on the team.

Took the words right out of my mouth nsulham.

tlef...how is Boston piling on Nomar??? All I hear is people wishing he was still playing for the Sox...but he's not...so we look at the positives from it. And how the hell do you know it's a horrible deal? As I have said a million times, only time will tell.
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Postby thehat » Mon Aug 02, 2004 12:33 am

tlef316 wrote:yeah, im sure Nomar was gonna tank the season with free agency looming over the winter ;-)

boston tried to to get A-rod to spite the yankees, and in doing so, they spit in Nomar's face.


You're suggesting that Boston tried to get one of the two or three best players in the game out of spite? That's just an amazing conclusion on your part.

And get your facts straight. The A-Rod thing didn't happen till after Nomar had turned down a monster contract extension....which is when the Red Sox front office correctly surmised he wanted to go someplace else, which he now has.
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Postby Transmogrifier » Mon Aug 02, 2004 10:19 am

*sigh*

I'd bet my life that Nomar gets a standing ovation at Fenway when he visits for the first time.

Clemens is a whole different story.
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