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by **Slow Pitch** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:35 pm

The more I think about it.

The Red Sox were doing just fine without Nomar this year, they have plently of bats with Manny, Ortiz, etc...

There biggest weakness was defense & boy did they just get a WHOLE lot BETTER on D. Doug M is about as slick as you get at 1b with the glove & Cabrera is a gold glove shortstop.

Sure they lose something in Nomars bat, but Orlando is far from bad. As an old Expos fan he can hit when he wants to. He really hated being in Montreal the last year & half.

I think the Sox addressed their biggest weakness D & are now 10x better defensively.

by **Pokey** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:36 pm

I sure hope you're right

by **ocmusicjunkie** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:37 pm

This really isn't well thought out on your part.

Nomar is better on D than Orlando is. And I don't know about you, but I care more about my SS's fielding than my 1b...

by **pomplona's finest** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:37 pm

You make some good points, the deal wasn't a complete loss for the Sox. But they needed a pitcher, and Clement would have been great for the Sox. I think the deal can be labeled poor simply because of the fact they had a chance to address their need for an arm but missed out.

by **KPucks** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:38 pm

I sure hope you're right, but I can't get the uneasy feeling in my stomach and the voice screaming in my head "HOW THE F*** DIDN'T THEY GET CLEMENT" to go away :~(

by **KolbSaves** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:38 pm

Kevin Millar 2004 1b fld%: .990
Dave Ortiz 2004 1b fld%: .985
Dave McCarty 2004 1b fld%: .992

it's not like their 1b defense was bad

by **Slow Pitch** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:39 pm

ocmusicjunkie wrote:This really isn't well thought out on your part.

Nomar is better on D than Orlando is. And I don't know about you, but I care more about my SS's fielding than my 1b...

WRONG....Orlando is significantly better on D than Nomar.

by **tlef316** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:39 pm

you cant give up nomar without getting a pitcher in return. bad move for the the sox IMO. cabrera is good, but has had a bad year, and Minky's defense will not have a huge effect.

huge deal for the cubs. they will be VERY dangerous if they get the wildcard and go into october with a healthy pitching staff

by **Pokey** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:39 pm

ocmusicjunkie wrote:This really isn't well thought out on your part.

Nomar is better on D than Orlando is. And I don't know about you, but I care more about my SS's fielding than my 1b...

I'm in no position to refute you, cuz I haven't really seen cabrera play that much, but from everything I've ever heard about him he's a MUCH better fielder than Nomar.

by **Slow Pitch** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:40 pm

KolbSaves wrote:Kevin Millar 2004 1b fld%: .990
Dave Ortiz 2004 1b fld%: .985
Dave McCarty 2004 1b fld%: .992

it's not like their 1b defense was bad

True but Doug M is probably the best defensive 1b in MLB.

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