bunyan wrote:Holds and saves are the exact same thing.
They just happen a different "times" in a game.
Uh, no. When there's a save there are usually multiple holds, so there are more more holds than saves in the course of a season.
They're not the same.
You're arguing symantics. The fact is that he's right. There's no real difference between the criteria for a hold and a save except that the game ends after a save.