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What Do You Like More - Roto or Points Scoring?

Postby StlSluggers » Tue Jul 27, 2004 4:02 pm

I am not trying to gather people for a new league or anything here. I have been trying to get a league started for next year, and in the course of doing that, I have had my curiousity sparked. I want to know what the ratio is of people who prefer roto scoring to points scoring.

To clarify, do you have a preference to play roto leagues where you are scored on categories (AVG, HR, SB, WHIP, etc.) or do you like to play points leagues where you are awarded points for certain events (1 pt for a single, 2 points for a double, 3 points for a triple, etc.)?

Myself, I prefer points scoring. There's something about categorical (roto) that I don't like, although I haven't put my finger on what it is exactly. I think it's more that the points system seems to be more like the real game of baseball, although you can argue to the contrary, of course. Either way, when I look around, I get the distinct feeling I am in the minority when I say that I prefer points to roto.

So I ask you, what do you prefer - roto or points?
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Postby Mustangs989 » Tue Jul 27, 2004 4:04 pm

Played both and preferred Roto. It's the best team over the course of the season rather then who has the best team the last week of the season. As last year in my CBS league I had 1000 pts more than all other teams and lost in the championship because Pedro rested for the playoffs.
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Postby StlSluggers » Tue Jul 27, 2004 4:08 pm

Mustangs989 wrote:Played both and preferred Roto. It's the best team over the course of the season rather then who has the best team the last week of the season. As last year in my CBS league I had 1000 pts more than all other teams and lost in the championship because Pedro rested for the playoffs.


Allow be just to play Devil's Advocate here:

Wouldn't you say that what you dislike about points is exactly how real baseball works? A team could go undefeated all year long, and still lose in the first round of the playoffs because of a fluke injury or a bad call.

Again, I'm not being beligerent. You're obviously entitled to your own opinion, and I'm not tyring to change it. I just want to pick your brain, if I may.
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Postby thetongueofire » Tue Jul 27, 2004 4:09 pm

roto for me. not even close.
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Postby great gretzky » Tue Jul 27, 2004 4:25 pm

I like roto better for the strategy (there are only so many points to go around)

However, one thing I am really, really tired of is the overrating of saves and steals, that irks me quite a bit to be honest. I wish they could comgine the cat into saves/steals and add another category somehow.

The thing I like about points is that it is like real baseball in that you can choose your course. You can ignore saves if you want, go weak on pitching, heavy on hitting, slap happy, whatever. I like that element. I like that you won't lost 10 percent of your score because of scarcity.
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Postby Rkiivs » Tue Jul 27, 2004 4:49 pm

Roto is my poison.

I'm with GG on the Saves cat. I'd like to see it replaced with Save%.

Steals, meh, I can take 'em or leave 'em.
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Postby Kelly Gruber » Tue Jul 27, 2004 4:52 pm

I also like points better. The last 2 years I did points leagues and this year I'm doing a roto league in addition, and I really don't like it. It has made me neurotic. For example, I have Schmidt in both leagues. In my roto league, I agonized over the 8 ER and WHIP of his last start, but I the points league, I know it wasn't a good start but it's not as agonizing. Also, every time a player starts slumping in roto, and you see him go 0'fer every day, it sucks.

I like points a lot better ;-D
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Postby mkultra » Tue Jul 27, 2004 4:52 pm

Play both, like both. Roto has deeper strategy, but nothing beats watching a slugger rack up 50 points in a week.

One thing about points I like is that it's harder to count a bad team out in the middle of the season. In roto, the season-long accumulation of statistics seems to lop off the bottom few teams by the All Star break. In H2H points, "bad" teams can still fight week-to-week, keeping them interested.
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Postby JOEG » Tue Jul 27, 2004 4:59 pm

Points by far

I get bored in roto leagues, points keeps it exciting till the end, i agree the best team usually doesn't win in points/playoff leagues, however look at baseball... Were the Marlins better then the Yankees? Nope they werent, but how exciting was the series?

I can see people arguing this both ways, I personally like my points league much much more then roto.
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Postby Tavish » Tue Jul 27, 2004 5:03 pm

I prefer category style scoring way above a straight point system. It forces players to build more complete teams. Plus the category scoring system tends to be more balanced in giving the different styles of players an equal value.
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