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Postby Amazinz » Mon Jul 26, 2004 7:29 pm

pbeall100281 wrote:All I am saying is "What the issue is here is a probable steroid users' relatively serious condition compared to others who have been infected and are not potential steroid using suspects."

[Sarcasm] You're right. Sammy Sosa, a guy who has been on the DL only 4 times in 16 years, threw his back out sneezing. I think it's pretty safe to assume that now that he's off the juice his body is breaking down. :-?[ /Sarcasm]
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Postby pbeall100281 » Mon Jul 26, 2004 8:03 pm

Amazinz wrote:
pbeall100281 wrote:All I am saying is "What the issue is here is a probable steroid users' relatively serious condition compared to others who have been infected and are not potential steroid using suspects."

[Sarcasm] You're right. Sammy Sosa, a guy who has been on the DL only 4 times in 16 years, threw his back out sneezing. I think it's pretty safe to assume that now that he's off the juice his body is breaking down. :-?[ /Sarcasm]


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Postby Amazinz » Mon Jul 26, 2004 8:10 pm

pbeall100281 wrote:you make no sense

I apologize. I will spell it out in simpler terms next time. ;-D
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Postby ramble2 » Mon Jul 26, 2004 9:07 pm

Dr.DooM wrote:Well, I usually specialize in plotting the demise of Reed Richards, I can dust off one of my old medical textbooks to answer your question.

It seems that they are concerned with testing for Amebiasis, which is caused by the protozoon Entamoeba Histolytica. It's the third leading cause of death from parasites after Malaria and schistosomiasis. I believe most references site 100,000 deaths per 50 million infections every year. Most of these cases occur in countries with poor sanitation but it could theoretically happen anywhere fecal-oral transmission is likely (deviant sexual practices). Here is a link that has a nice description of the disease with some pictures.


Thanks Dr.DooM.

I should warn the more sensitive readers out there that some may find this post a bit, well, gross. But nobody ever said the truth was pretty.!+)

Just to try and put a stop to any unseemly rumors, fecal-oral transmission is far more likely to occur than most people would care to know. Someone like Giambi, Kevin Brown, their wives, or, truth be told, most anyone posting here, are far more likely to contract something transmitted this way by eating out in a restaurant than by engaging in any 'deviant sexual practices'. Let's just say that proper hand-washing etiquette is something that many restaurant employees could learn to do better.

(Not to disparage restaurant employees, of which I used to be one. Honestly though, did you lather up effectively the last time you took a leak or scratched your a**? Did you turn off the water using a towel, NOT your hands?)

Public health measures such as hand-washing, clean water and refrigeration have saved far more lives than any other medical technology. Think about that the next time someone proposes to cut the budget of food or restaurant inspectors. Or the next time your roommate offers to cook dinner.

And while we're talking about parasites, may as well add to the gross-out factor. When my fiancee was in med school, she stopped eating sushi for about two years after studying parasitology. Her friends who specialized in the field will hardly touch fish. This might explain why Giambi et al think Japan was the source of their infection.

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Postby pomplona's finest » Mon Jul 26, 2004 9:42 pm

I'm not a doctor but I still disagree. Granted, it's not like going to Haiti and bathing in the trenches, but it's still a foreign country. People who have been in a locale most of their lives can develop an immunity or resistance to impurities in the water, food, etc. It's entirely possible they picked it up over there from something that the local residents ingest without any problem.


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Postby stomperrob » Tue Jul 27, 2004 2:57 am

ramble2 wrote:
Dr.DooM wrote:Well, I usually specialize in plotting the demise of Reed Richards, I can dust off one of my old medical textbooks to answer your question.

It seems that they are concerned with testing for Amebiasis, which is caused by the protozoon Entamoeba Histolytica. It's the third leading cause of death from parasites after Malaria and schistosomiasis. I believe most references site 100,000 deaths per 50 million infections every year. Most of these cases occur in countries with poor sanitation but it could theoretically happen anywhere fecal-oral transmission is likely (deviant sexual practices). Here is a link that has a nice description of the disease with some pictures.


Thanks Dr.DooM.

I should warn the more sensitive readers out there that some may find this post a bit, well, gross. But nobody ever said the truth was pretty.!+)

Just to try and put a stop to any unseemly rumors, fecal-oral transmission is far more likely to occur than most people would care to know. Someone like Giambi, Kevin Brown, their wives, or, truth be told, most anyone posting here, are far more likely to contract something transmitted this way by eating out in a restaurant than by engaging in any 'deviant sexual practices'. Let's just say that proper hand-washing etiquette is something that many restaurant employees could learn to do better.

(Not to disparage restaurant employees, of which I used to be one. Honestly though, did you lather up effectively the last time you took a leak or scratched your a**? Did you turn off the water using a towel, NOT your hands?)

Public health measures such as hand-washing, clean water and refrigeration have saved far more lives than any other medical technology. Think about that the next time someone proposes to cut the budget of food or restaurant inspectors. Or the next time your roommate offers to cook dinner.

And while we're talking about parasites, may as well add to the gross-out factor. When my fiancee was in med school, she stopped eating sushi for about two years after studying parasitology. Her friends who specialized in the field will hardly touch fish. This might explain why Giambi et al think Japan was the source of their infection.

Good eats!


Excellent point! My family and I received a very virulent form of food poisoning from a well known U.S. take out chain - the toxicology tests revealed that it was due to employees not washing their hands after having a bowel movement and then handling the french fries. My son and I were much sicker than my wife and daughter - not because we were on steroids, just because we were pigs and ate a hell of a lot more than they did. It wasn't as bad as what Giambi has, we got better in less than a week.
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Postby Pokeyouindaeye » Tue Jul 27, 2004 3:09 am

On Sportcenter/BBall tonight, Giambi also admitted he hadn't been eating as much recently, which can't be good for those power numbers anyways when combined with the parasite conditions.

Lets just hope he gets healthy.
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Postby ajgnydc722 » Tue Jul 27, 2004 10:43 am

This sucks. Even with all the steriod concerns and accusations, Giambi is one of the nicest guys in the game and it sucks to see this kind of thing happen. Hopefully he'll get better soon.
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Postby Nomar4prez » Tue Jul 27, 2004 5:36 pm

ajgnydc722 wrote:This sucks. Even with all the steriod concerns and accusations, Giambi is one of the nicest guys in the game and it sucks to see this kind of thing happen. Hopefully he'll get better soon.


I agree. Even as a Sox fan, I can see he seems like a nice guy. Too bad no one see's that with David Ortiz.
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Postby rmeesig » Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:36 am

Here's a pretty well written story of what is/isn't going on with Jason. Hope they figure it out...

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