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Postby matmat » Mon Jul 26, 2004 4:59 pm

my read on this is :

he MIGHT have a parasite that CAN lead to this fatal condition. Even if he has the parasite it will not, necesserily, lead to the fatal desease.
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Postby jeffc_76 » Mon Jul 26, 2004 5:03 pm

I would even infer further that he almost certainly will NOT die from it. He's going to receive the absolute best medical treatment possible. He'll be fine. Whether or not he will play again this year isn't so certain though.

But then again, that's assuming this is what's wrong with him and not something else. The cancer / HIV tests scare me more than this parasite nonsense.
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Postby Pedantic » Mon Jul 26, 2004 5:06 pm

Dr.DooM wrote:Most of these cases occur in countries with poor sanitation but it could theoretically happen anywhere fecal-oral transmission is likely (deviant sexual practices).


jeffc_76 wrote:"Men who have sex with men can become infected......"


I'm not sure I like where this is headed...8-o
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Postby matmat » Mon Jul 26, 2004 5:26 pm

excerpt from the link provided above:

Malnutrition, old age, pregnancy, use of steroids, malignancy (cancer), and alcoholism predispose a person to more severe disease, as does immunosuppression. Recent travel to a tropical region is a risk factor. In the US, amebiasis is most common among gay men and residents of institutions.


uh oh

i don't think he's pregnant.
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Postby blankman » Mon Jul 26, 2004 5:31 pm

I was under the impression that both Giambi and Brown got it from Japan on their openning trip. I have no clue where I heard this, but if anyone can find anything about that, it'd be cool.
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Postby pbeall100281 » Mon Jul 26, 2004 5:31 pm

blankman wrote:
Amazinz wrote:
Super GM wrote:I read that too on ESPN. Kinda scary...So kids, if you lay off steroids, this won't happen to you. ;-D

Man that's a crazy comment. I'm no doctor but I'm pretty sure these parasites have nothing to do with steroids. It's fun to bash the Yankees but I don't think it's too cool to be making light of Giambi's situation. Just my $.02.


Agreed. The parasites have nothing to do with steriods or lack thereof. Lets all hope he's ok.


Are any of you acutally qualified to say that setriod use has no effect on Giambi's condition? Study the side effects and I bet my .02 cents that roid use can leave you mure suseptable to certian diseases/viruses
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Postby Amazinz » Mon Jul 26, 2004 5:33 pm

blankman wrote:I was under the impression that both Giambi and Brown got it from Japan on their openning trip. I have no clue where I heard this, but if anyone can find anything about that, it'd be cool.

Kevin Brown was the one who said they probably got it from Japan but the Yankees doctor said they were no more likely to get it in Japan than the U.S.
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Postby blankman » Mon Jul 26, 2004 5:34 pm

pbeall100281 wrote:
blankman wrote:
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Super GM wrote:I read that too on ESPN. Kinda scary...So kids, if you lay off steroids, this won't happen to you. ;-D

Man that's a crazy comment. I'm no doctor but I'm pretty sure these parasites have nothing to do with steroids. It's fun to bash the Yankees but I don't think it's too cool to be making light of Giambi's situation. Just my $.02.


Agreed. The parasites have nothing to do with steriods or lack thereof. Lets all hope he's ok.


Are any of you acutally qualified to say that setriod use has no effect on Giambi's condition? Study the side effects and I bet my .02 cents that roid use can leave you mure suseptable to certian diseases/viruses


Perhaps, but Super was inferring that he got them directly from taking steriods. It is not even a definite fact that he did do them anyway (I think he did, but I don't KNOW he did).
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Postby jeffc_76 » Mon Jul 26, 2004 5:35 pm

pbeall100281 wrote:Are any of you acutally qualified to say that setriod use has no effect on Giambi's condition? Study the side effects and I bet my .02 cents that roid use can leave you mure suseptable to certian diseases/viruses


It's quite a reach. Besides, if that were the case, where are all the other sick players? After all, something like 6-8% supposedly tested positive last year. Also, if he were on steroids, most would agree that he is almost certainly off them now with the extra scrutiny and attention surrounding it. I would argue that he would be more likely to get sick while ON the juice as opposed to after he got off it. While on it, he could have weakened liver function and other problems. Afterwards, the only real problem would potentially be getting his natural testosterone production back up if he cycled too hard.
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Postby jeffc_76 » Mon Jul 26, 2004 5:39 pm

Amazinz wrote:
blankman wrote:I was under the impression that both Giambi and Brown got it from Japan on their openning trip. I have no clue where I heard this, but if anyone can find anything about that, it'd be cool.

Kevin Brown was the one who said they probably got it from Japan but the Yankees doctor said they were no more likely to get it in Japan than the U.S.


I'm not a doctor but I still disagree. Granted, it's not like going to Haiti and bathing in the trenches, but it's still a foreign country. People who have been in a locale most of their lives can develop an immunity or resistance to impurities in the water, food, etc. It's entirely possible they picked it up over there from something that the local residents ingest without any problem.
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