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Postby bibsybob » Wed Jul 21, 2004 11:12 pm

I would like to hear you guys discuss your opinions concerning whether or not a contact hitter is more beneficial to his team than someone who strikes out much more often than making contact. Some say that there no difference and you gidp too much if you're a contact hitter and others say that it allows for more productive out if you can make contact. What do u say? Discuss
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Postby CrazyPooja90 » Wed Jul 21, 2004 11:18 pm

An out's an out.......



A hit's a hit......
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Postby pomplona's finest » Wed Jul 21, 2004 11:26 pm

An out's an out.......



A hit's a hit......


damn right
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Postby ensanimal » Wed Jul 21, 2004 11:28 pm

CrazyPooja90 wrote:An out's an out.......



A hit's a hit......


unless it's a sac fly and you can get an rbi out of an out.
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Postby Rico The Retard » Wed Jul 21, 2004 11:28 pm

there could be a little difference a strikeout could add momentum to a pitchers attitude so he would start throwing better i dunno just came up with something there
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Postby Amazinz » Wed Jul 21, 2004 11:31 pm

A K is a little worse than an out by contact but not to the degree Tim McCarver would have you believe. It's very situational but putting a ball into play is almost always better than striking out. Just ask Red Sox fans what can happen when a ball is put in play. :-D
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Postby pomplona's finest » Wed Jul 21, 2004 11:35 pm

Just ask Red Sox fans what can happen when a ball is put in play.


lol, a good point though
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Postby matmat » Wed Jul 21, 2004 11:37 pm

it's probably a wash.

runner at third, one out.
I'd rather have a contact hitter get a ground ball to the right side than a hitter K.

runner on first, noone out
I'd rather have a hitter K than ground into a double play.
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Postby LBJackal » Wed Jul 21, 2004 11:46 pm

Yeah it differs by what men are on what bases.

And let me clarify this before I go on: I think K's are terrible ways to make outs, but, if a team has a weak bullpen and it's a close game, you might want to have a long at bat by avoiding swinging at the first few strikes. It puts you in a tough position with 2 strikes, but also forces the pitcher to get more tired.

That's why K pitchers like Schmidt throw so many pitches, but finesse guys like Halladay hardly throw any. K's are much more tiring. I'd still rather have a guy make contact than strikeout, but it's a strategy that can be considered (I do it in MVP for XBox and it works to some degree. Being extra patient when you're facing an awesome pitcher, that is).

But if you're talking about which kind of hitter you'd rather hve, I'd rather have the contact hitter, all things equal. That way you can still be patient and force the pitcher to throw more pitches, but have a better shot at avoiding a strikeout at the same time.
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Postby thetongueofire » Thu Jul 22, 2004 12:08 am

well, doesnt it kinda depend on how good the hitters are... *tongue scratches his useless fantasy baseball obsessed head*

anyways, i agree depends on the situation.

my ideal hitter would be the Barry Bonds/Pujols type.. ya know... people who have more walks than K's. :-D

I don't mind someone who strikes out a lot, as long as he draws walks as well. but someone like soriano makes me a lil nervous. :-o
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