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Postby rmeesig » Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:43 am

New Zealand Fan wrote:The Cubs have scored just 9 more runs than the Expos since the beginning of June. They are the most over rated offense in the majors.


Never knew that...bunch of underachievers.
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Postby slomo007 » Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:45 am

The Cubs have always, and will always be, underachievers. :-)

It's part of what makes this game so great.
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Postby foamposited » Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:31 pm

How come no news of the cabrera trade yet?
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Postby rich101682 » Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:37 pm

Now the papers in Cleveland say that the Cubs will try to get Vizquel if Cabrera can't be aquired. The only problem there is Vizquel's no-trade clause.
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Postby JOEG » Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:50 pm

rich101682 wrote:Now the papers in Cleveland say that the Cubs will try to get Vizquel if Cabrera can't be aquired. The only problem there is Vizquel's no-trade clause.


Does Cleveland get more great prospect then??? ahhhh this is the team to beat next year in the central and the MLB in 2 years.
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Postby LBJackal » Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:59 pm

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LBJackal wrote:I'd take the Cubs lineup over the Expos lineup any day.


So would I, but don't be fooled into thinking he's going to a great producing, strong offensive club. The Cubs haven't been slumping. The runs they have hit in June and July on average is very similar to what they have hit all year.


If it's been the same all year then why did you say "since June" and not factor in April or May? LOL.

Anyway the Cubs aren't that bad. They've scored 116 more runs than the Expos so if you dont' think Cabrera is in a MUCH better situation, especially taking into consideration the Cubs have been without their best 2 power hitters (Aramis and Sosa) for a combined total of 42 games, then you're just hatin on the Cubs. They're scored more rus than the offenses of Florida and Houston, which are both power packed offenses. Sure they won't score as many runs as StL or Philly but they're still a damn good offense despite not being better than every other offense in the league.
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Postby NZF » Wed Jul 21, 2004 2:49 pm

LBJackal wrote:
If it's been the same all year then why did you say "since June" and not factor in April or May? LOL.



Because the Expos were absolutely pathetic before June. The Cubs have just been ordinary all year. Doing OK against bad pitchers and getting shut down by anyone decent.
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Postby Pedantic » Wed Jul 21, 2004 2:52 pm

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LBJackal wrote:
If it's been the same all year then why did you say "since June" and not factor in April or May? LOL.



Because the Expos were absolutely pathetic before June. The Cubs have just been ordinary all year. Doing OK against bad pitchers and getting shut down by anyone decent.


I'm glad someone else sees it the same way. People have been talking about it all year--how they're "afraid" to start their pitchers against the Cubs' lineup. But the Cubs' hitters strikeout so much, any pitcher worth his salt can stymie them.
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Postby gforce1124 » Wed Jul 21, 2004 3:10 pm

i think the most significant part of this deal is that cabrera would simply get out of an environment that he hates. check out his stats from last year, he was a real good fantasy player. if he were on the cubbies, he'd prob be real excited to be in a pennant race and would be motivated to step it up. he wouldnt have to travel to and from 2 foreign countries for his home games...the expos travel so much farther than any other team, that alone is cause for cabrera's stats to improve.

if he is traded to the cubs, i think we could def expect numbers similar to what he put up last season.
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Postby LBJackal » Wed Jul 21, 2004 4:49 pm

Pedantic wrote:
New Zealand Fan wrote:
LBJackal wrote:
If it's been the same all year then why did you say "since June" and not factor in April or May? LOL.



Because the Expos were absolutely pathetic before June. The Cubs have just been ordinary all year. Doing OK against bad pitchers and getting shut down by anyone decent.


I'm glad someone else sees it the same way. People have been talking about it all year--how they're "afraid" to start their pitchers against the Cubs' lineup. But the Cubs' hitters strikeout so much, any pitcher worth his salt can stymie them.


They may strike out a lot, but they score a lot of runs as well. The Astros and Marlins have pretty damn good lineups and the Cubs are scoring more than them, and have been without Aramis and Sosa for extended periods. With everybody healthy...... they have an awesome lineup. One of the best in the NL.
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