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by **POSADA is KING** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 9:48 pm

Still none right and its a pretty obvious answer and any clue will give it away!

by **Tavish** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 10:03 pm

OK how about Cy Young?

by **POSADA is KING** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 10:05 pm

wrong

by **paulman8** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 11:17 pm

ok...I dont know who you're looking for, but galvin pitched a no-hitter in 1880 AND was the losing pitcher (also the starter) in the second perfect game ever during that same season. So just to try to get what I suppose is the 2nd right answer...I'll guess Hippo Vaugh, seeing as he pitched a 9-inning no-hitter before losing in 10 in the same game to Fred Toney. Is that the one you want?

(And do I get credit if I found the answer, just not the specific one he wants?)

by **Andy1234** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 11:28 pm

Juan Marichal?<br><br><span class=gensmall>Accepted as answer by POSADA is KING on Fri Jul 23, 2004 10:35 pm EST.</span>

by **POSADA is KING** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 11:29 pm

Pud Galvin didnt lose the perfect game in 1880 and Vaughn is wrong too

by **POSADA is KING** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 11:34 pm

Finally we have correct answer! Way to go Andy! The answer is Juan Marichal, lost on 5/11/63 to Sandy Koufax and the Dodgers and won on 6/15/63 against the Astros.

by **paulman8** » Sat Jul 24, 2004 11:54 am

» June 17, 1880: John Montgomery Ward pitches a perfect game in Providence against Buffalo, winning 5–0. Losing P Pud Galvin makes the last out. This is the 2nd perfect game in the National League in six days. The 3rd will not be pitched until 1964, when Jim Bunning turns the trick.

(He had no-hit Worcester in 1880.)
June 17, 1880
Providence
Name IP H R BB SO HR
John Ward 9.0 0 0 0 2 0

Buffalo
Name IP H R BB SO HR
Pud Galvin 9.0 13 5 0 2 0

Thats the pitching line from the perfect game he lost. Look on a list of no-hitters and you'll see that he pitched one that year too. I dont mean to be snobby about this, but unless Im mistaken, this means that Pud Galvin was also the correct answer to the question, and since I got it first, shouldn't I get some credit?

by **Andy1234** » Sat Jul 24, 2004 1:54 pm

This is ESPN's list of MLB No-Hitters.
It lists Pud Galvin's no-hitter on 8/19/1880, the only other No-Hitter in 1880 was on 8/18 by Larry Corcoran, but there is nothing for 7/17/1880. Perfect Games are also listed on this list. Maybe Ward's perfect game was un-official or something.

by **paulman8** » Sat Jul 24, 2004 3:12 pm

hmm...strange...baseball almanac lists it as a no-hitter

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