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Postby Lofunzo » Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:35 am

Does anyone see the irony with the words Dunn and patient in the same sentence?? This is from Yahoo:

Adam Dunn, OF, Reds. I don't believe I've ever seen such a patient hitter at such a young age (24). Dunn is back to averaging almost a walk per five plate appearances this season -- he is on pace for 128 free passes -- and his .411 OBP has him ranked in the top 15 in the majors. So what's the news? In today's batting-average-overrated fantasy world, Dunn can carry a points squad under most owners' radar. In fact, his .265 average ties him with Jorge Posada for the lowest of any major leaguer in the top 30 in OBP. Oh, let's not forget he is also on pace for 28 doubles and 47 homers.
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Postby KolbSaves » Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:42 am

I don't, he's always had a pretty good walk rate hasn't he?
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Postby Lofunzo » Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:48 am

KolbSaves wrote:I don't, he's always had a pretty good walk rate hasn't he?


I was referring to them calling a batter on pace for 200 K's patient. I thought that WR would like this.
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Postby thetongueofire » Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:57 am

his average AB is 4.3 pitches long. i'd say that pretty "patient". i think hes patient in the sense that he doesnt mind taking pitches. but if youre looking at patient somewhat in the sense of how good of a contact hitter he is, hes obviously not good very good there.
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Postby Madison » Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:27 pm

Lol. :-D Interesting bit. ;-D
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Postby bell » Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:36 pm

I think you need to look a little deeper than the number of strikeouts in order to disqualify someone as patient.
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Postby wrveres » Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:55 pm

wonderful ;-D

I am sure that will come in handy when we start using OBP as a scoring category instead of Batting Average in most fantasy circles ..

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Postby Lofunzo » Tue Jul 13, 2004 12:06 am

bell wrote:I think you need to look a little deeper than the number of strikeouts in order to disqualify someone as patient.


I understand that. I just have a hard time calling a hitter patient when he K's 200 times a year. Maybe the amount of pitches that he sees will matter later in his career but I don't see a big difference between striking out in 3, 4, or 5 pitches. :-? If I was pitching to a feast or famine guy like Dunn and I had him 0-2, you better bet that the 3rd pitch won't be anywhere near the strike zone.
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Postby George_Foreman » Tue Jul 13, 2004 12:28 am

He's hella-patient. If he wasn't, his average would be down aroudn .150 instead of .250 :-/

He's simply not good at making contact. They're two very different skills :-p
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Postby Nails » Tue Jul 13, 2004 12:16 pm

Lofunzo wrote:
bell wrote:I think you need to look a little deeper than the number of strikeouts in order to disqualify someone as patient.


I understand that. I just have a hard time calling a hitter patient when he K's 200 times a year. Maybe the amount of pitches that he sees will matter later in his career but I don't see a big difference between striking out in 3, 4, or 5 pitches. :-? If I was pitching to a feast or famine guy like Dunn and I had him 0-2, you better bet that the 3rd pitch won't be anywhere near the strike zone.


And you wouldn't strike him out. The guy rarely swings at bad pitches. It is why he hits so many homeruns. He is very hard to strike him out on a bad pitch. The thing is, is that he swings and misses alot at strikes. So the pitcher is in a catch-22. You pretty much have to throw him a strike to K him, but then you take the chance of him connecting. If this guy ever starts connecting more, it will be very scary.
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