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This is why Eric Milton is no all star

Postby perlick29 » Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:21 pm

Because tonight he pitches like he always does only this time he got two runs of support. I hear people like John Kruk on ESPN say it's a shame Milton isn't an allstar because of his 11 wins but let's face it: He's not effective.

We at the cafe can see behind the smoke and mirrors, practically every NL pitcher has an era under 3 and deserve it more.

From a fantasy standpoint can you even ever start Milton. If you play roto the answer to me would seem like a resounding NO. In H2H I guess you could if your matchup isn't close that week in ERA and WHIP.
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Postby WhiteHot » Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:31 pm

Did you watch the game? The 3-run HR early in the game was a obvious foul ball. It wasn't a HR.
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Postby Arrowhead Nation » Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:35 pm

When I hear about milton all I can say is Chris George....

he had like 8 wins by mid June last year but was terrible...like a 7.11 ERA....Wins are overrated by a wide margin over stats like TBA or BAA.

Always remember CHris George when talking about a situation like this.
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Postby JOEG » Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:37 pm

Milton is having a great year. Milton is a great pitcher, George was a bit pitcher and is no good! Look at the park he is pitching in!
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Postby perlick29 » Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:39 pm

WhiteHot wrote:Did you watch the game? The 3-run HR early in the game was a obvious foul ball. It wasn't a HR.



So that's why he should be an all star? Because the ball was foul?

Did he pitch well otherwise? No. 9 hits 2 BB in 6.2 innings.

So the ball was foul, it was crushed. He didn't pitch well otherwise, that's why he's not an all-star.
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Postby Pedantic » Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:42 pm

Last I checked, a 4.48 ERA and a 1.53 WHIP generally doesn't put a pitcher in contention for the title of "great." ;-7
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Postby JOEG » Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:43 pm

11 wins does though
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Postby WhiteHot » Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:45 pm

perlick29 wrote:
WhiteHot wrote:Did you watch the game? The 3-run HR early in the game was a obvious foul ball. It wasn't a HR.



So that's why he should be an all star? Because the ball was foul?

Did he pitch well otherwise? No. 9 hits 2 BB in 6.2 innings.

So the ball was foul, it was crushed. He didn't pitch well otherwise, that's why he's not an all-star.


It seems like you are using today's game as some kind of proof that he shouldn't be an all-star (i agree he shouldn't be an all-star, but your logic is flawed).

First, you don't mention the 6Ks. Way to throw up a strawman.

Second, it shouldn't be 6ER because of a obviously botched call.

Third, so if someone crushes a foul ball, that makes the pitcher bad? That's pretty much what you are saying.

Fourth, do you see the park that he has to pitch in? It's a friggin' launching pad.

Fifth, don't ever make cases on one outing. It seems thats what you are doing here. Everyone bashed Santana early in the year and what happened? Every praised Zito before the season and what happened? 9 hits in 6.2 isn't that bad considering one hit was false.
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Postby JOEG » Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:47 pm

Finally someone making some sense
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Postby perlick29 » Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:47 pm

JOEG wrote:11 wins does though


no it doesn't. the wins are arbitrary when you get lots of run support. His peripherals as Pedantic mentioned tell a much deeper story. I forgot Milton used to pitch for the twinkies. Are you even a little biased?
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