Who saw it? Which was the right call? Anyone know?
i thought it was an error, but i dont think they should change something like that after the game. Someone else mentioned that if they do that they should look at all the umpires calls and see if they were right. Would have loved that 4 ip 0 er 8 ks.
Who saw it? Which was the right call? Anyone know?
i thought it was an error, but i dont think they should change something like that after the game. Someone else mentioned that if they do that they should look at all the umpires calls and see if they were right. Would have loved that 4 ip 0 er 8 ks.
hometown cookin' -- batter gets a hit. I bet someone on the brewers talked to the scorer.
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I stuck it in the other Prior thread (not wearing my Prior jersey during the game but did have my cursèd Cubs hat on...) but I was watching the game and he DESERVED to get 3 ER and one R from the baserunner who reached what was clearly an error. Prior was being too cute w/ the inside pitches to force the Brewers to hit in front of the runner at second AND was throwing non-breaking breaking balls.
One other funny detail was that when Grieve hit the double, Steve Stone was going on and on 'you should walk him and pitch to Ginter, he was 0 for 3 yesterday'....
AcidRock23 wrote:I think that it would be better if they didn't announce these numbers DURING the game. I just about fell off of my couch when they said 'Prior only got one earned run there...' around the time they took him out. Obviously, that would 'devalue' stat-tracker type of things but, if they are at all on the fence, they should just wait until they are sure.
Huh? They see the replay god knows how many times during the game. They should be able to make the call right then. I want to know what changed after the game for him to take away the error. Seems like a completely bogus call to me.
Really, I think that they should have given him 3 ER for the ones he gave up and not counted the baserunner who got on on the E. That is what I saw so I'm not sure where they get off giving Counsell the hit either. The whole thing is pretty darn shady and does kind of make me wonder how often this stuff goes on in games I don't have the opportunity to see!!
I'd always thought that a runner who got on on an E was not an earned run. I was not at all aware of the bit about going 'well, if he got out, then the next guy wouldn't have hit so his run should not have been earned either. Nor the next two guys'. That does not seem logical or in any way based on the rules. I don't think that it's fair to Prior to let him off w/o some of those runs. He gave up the runs and should get tagged. He should NOT have gotten that Error run though.
hybrid wrote:
AcidRock23 wrote:I think that it would be better if they didn't announce these numbers DURING the game. I just about fell off of my couch when they said 'Prior only got one earned run there...' around the time they took him out. Obviously, that would 'devalue' stat-tracker type of things but, if they are at all on the fence, they should just wait until they are sure.
Huh? They see the replay god knows how many times during the game. They should be able to make the call right then. I want to know what changed after the game for him to take away the error. Seems like a completely bogus call to me.
AcidRock23 wrote: I'd always thought that a runner who got on on an E was not an earned run.
he isn't. but counsell didn't get on on an error. he reached base on a single and the runner from third scored on the throwing error. Had there not been an error the runner would have scored anyway because of the hits that came after counsell. This is why all the runs are earned, because they would have scored anyway had the error not occured.
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