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Postby CBMGreatOne » Mon Jul 05, 2004 3:14 pm

Schilling has a couple of CGs too, at least 2 for sure. Schilling is the better pitcher, and the better sentimental choice. I have both in various leagues, but the only difference between the two of any significance is that Schilling strikes more people out. Schilling has been around much longer too.
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Postby DaQ » Mon Jul 05, 2004 7:22 pm

Mulder is on my Fantasy team, but I have to go with Schilling here. Mulder is a great pitcher, but if you have to go w/ an AL pitcher for one game, who would you take? I value this on success thid year plus how he's done in past clutch situations and other "intangibles". For me, it's Schilling, and I would not be surprised if he does not walk Bonds at all.
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Postby blankman » Mon Jul 05, 2004 7:57 pm

DaQ wrote:Mulder is on my Fantasy team, but I have to go with Schilling here. Mulder is a great pitcher, but if you have to go w/ an AL pitcher for one game, who would you take? I value this on success thid year plus how he's done in past clutch situations and other "intangibles". For me, it's Schilling, and I would not be surprised if he does not walk Bonds at all.


Thats not what its about though. The question isn't who you'd rather have in say Game 7 of the World Series. Its who's had a better season, not career.

Mulder is my pick
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Postby mythigh » Mon Jul 05, 2004 8:06 pm

yeah and schilling has had the better season too....
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Postby blankman » Mon Jul 05, 2004 10:18 pm

mythigh wrote:yeah and schilling has had the better season too....


That's debatable. K's are overrated in real baseball. An out is an out.
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Postby j5mikey » Tue Jul 06, 2004 2:47 am

i think we're all missing the real big picture

home field advantage :-°

so whoever has the best chance to get your league HFA, there's your man.

I would LOVE to see the Schilling Clemens matchup but as a White Sox fan (i know that they wont go to the WS, but i can dream...) i want to see mulder on the hill.
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Postby shortsavage » Tue Jul 06, 2004 3:07 am

blankman wrote:
DaQ wrote:Mulder is on my Fantasy team, but I have to go with Schilling here. Mulder is a great pitcher, but if you have to go w/ an AL pitcher for one game, who would you take? I value this on success thid year plus how he's done in past clutch situations and other "intangibles". For me, it's Schilling, and I would not be surprised if he does not walk Bonds at all.


Thats not what its about though. The question isn't who you'd rather have in say Game 7 of the World Series. Its who's had a better season, not career.

Mulder is my pick


How do you know what it is about? Hehe, isn't this another unwritten rule?

In the year of ageless wonders, Schilling will get the start.
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Postby mikemcj55 » Tue Jul 06, 2004 12:06 pm

The main debate I've heard is between Mulder and Kenny Rogers. I think both Schilling and Mulder are having the better year, and are better pitchers. but everybody loves the underdog.

Here are the numbers
Mulder 125.0 ip, 11 wins 4 cg's 83 k's 2.95 era 1.16 whip
Schilling 120.0 ip, 11 wins 2 cg's, 110 k's, 3.08 era, 1.12 whip
Rogers 116.0 ip 12 wins 2 cg's 66 k's 3.65 era 1.26 whip

Looking at run support does not solve the debate
Mulder gets 7.13 runs per start
Rogers 6.91 runs
Schilling 6.83 runs

The divisions these teams play in are pretty comparable, from an offensive standpoint. Texas, Oakland, and Anaheim are comparable offensively to Baltimore, NY Yankees, and Toronto.

The only stat that helps me out is Opponent's batting average
Mulder's is .236
Schilling .248
Rogers is .257

I give the edge to Mulder in this regard, mainly because the best 6 teams in the league in BA are Detroit, Texas, Baltimore, cCeveland, White Sox, and Anaheim
Mulder has pitched a combined five games against these teams
Schilling has pitched two

That's really the only difference ebtweent these gusy that I can see, strength of matchups...feel free to argue with me if you want.
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Postby Aggie_Eric98 » Tue Jul 06, 2004 12:50 pm

Rogers, hands down. :-D
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Postby slomo007 » Tue Jul 06, 2004 12:54 pm

mikemcj55 wrote:Looking at run support does not solve the debate
Mulder gets 7.13 runs per start
Rogers 6.91 runs
Schilling 6.83 runs


Is it just me, or is run support perhaps the most underrated stat in existence? It should be listed on every starting pitchers' stat sheet, right next to ERA. Even though they can't really control it, it definitely should be noted more often.
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