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Postby KULCAT » Sun Jul 04, 2004 12:23 pm

DieHardCubbie wrote:I don't really like the decision made by MLB...but they do have to enforce the rules as they are....and if they let Foulke get by with it...what is to stop Choi from putting a Korean flag on his hat...or Sammy from putting a Dominican flag....or Gange from putting a Canadian flag... :-?


Or Tadano wearing a Boogie Nights sticker
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Postby RWLongy4 » Sun Jul 04, 2004 12:30 pm

KULCAT wrote:
DieHardCubbie wrote:I don't really like the decision made by MLB...but they do have to enforce the rules as they are....and if they let Foulke get by with it...what is to stop Choi from putting a Korean flag on his hat...or Sammy from putting a Dominican flag....or Gange from putting a Canadian flag... :-?


Or Tadano wearing a Boogie Nights sticker


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Postby SuperHippo » Sun Jul 04, 2004 12:33 pm

Bud needs to examine the rest of the league. I find people wearing baggy uniforms (Manny, Sabathia) and crooked hats (Pierre, Dontrelle, Sabathia) far more offensive than a flag on a cap.

Lets not forget *somebody* wanted to display ads for Spider-man 2 on the bases. :-P
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Postby eftda » Sun Jul 04, 2004 12:39 pm

ug, we need a new commish. I would love it if Mark Grace was the commish.
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Postby giants8307 » Sun Jul 04, 2004 12:40 pm

Although I don't like the United States, this is silly. It's just a little patch. If a player wants that or a 57, i don't see how that's going to affect the game.
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Postby thehat » Sun Jul 04, 2004 12:49 pm

It's in the labor agreement, as I stated before. And while I agree that a #57 or a flag is fine, it's still an individual thing. Suppose someone wants to put a decal on his cap for some political cause he's involved in, or someone else wants a message that others may find offensive.

In other words, no part of the major league baseball uniform is allowed to be a forum for individual thought or expression, and I fully agree with this. If the player wants to put an American flag, Darryl Kile's jersey number or a Budweiser sticker on his car, his house, his body or just about anything else, that's fine...but since the uniform is not his property, it doesn't belong there.
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Postby G-Man » Sun Jul 04, 2004 1:02 pm

thehat wrote:It's in the labor agreement, as I stated before. And while I agree that a #57 or a flag is fine, it's still an individual thing. Suppose someone wants to put a decal on his cap for some political cause he's involved in, or someone else wants a message that others may find offensive.

In other words, no part of the major league baseball uniform is allowed to be a forum for individual thought or expression, and I fully agree with this. If the player wants to put an American flag, Darryl Kile's jersey number or a Budweiser sticker on his car, his house, his body or just about anything else, that's fine...but since the uniform is not his property, it doesn't belong there.


well put....although people disagree with the perceivably *unpatriotic* decision to have the flag removed if it is NOT enforced uniformly you run into an even worse problem....deciding what is or is not "offensive" or "inappropriate".

I have read the entire MLB rulebook several times (touch of sarcasm) in search of the definitive rule forbidding knuckleheads like sabathia from wearing their hats crooked. now THAT is offensive.
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Postby blankman » Sun Jul 04, 2004 1:04 pm

DieHardCubbie wrote:I don't really like the decision made by MLB...but they do have to enforce the rules as they are....and if they let Foulke get by with it...what is to stop Choi from putting a Korean flag on his hat...or Sammy from putting a Dominican flag....or Gange from putting a Canadian flag... :-?


I agree completely. I wish Foulke could wear it, but rules ARE rules.
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Postby blankman » Sun Jul 04, 2004 1:06 pm

thehat wrote:It's in the labor agreement, as I stated before. And while I agree that a #57 or a flag is fine, it's still an individual thing. Suppose someone wants to put a decal on his cap for some political cause he's involved in, or someone else wants a message that others may find offensive.


great point. next thing we'd see is Bush Cheney '04/ Kerry ___ '04
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Postby Madison » Sun Jul 04, 2004 3:11 pm

I agree with those who have pointed out that allowing Foulke to wear the flag, or the Cardinals to attach a 57, would just open the floodgates for more and more. While both of the above are certainly respectable, MLB would be forced to draw the lines and that could get really nasty.
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