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Postby rmeesig » Fri Jul 02, 2004 12:37 pm

from Rotoworld:

The Cubs laughed off a rumor that they might send Matt Clement to Boston for Nomar Garciaparra.
Peter Gammons, among others, reported the rumor on Baseball Tonight. The Cubs would rather go after bullpen help, though, and are one of many teams looking at Ugueth Urbina, so LaTroy Hawkins owners should be aware. Jul. 2 - 8:32 am et



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Postby warrick95 » Fri Jul 02, 2004 12:42 pm

Noooooooo not Urbina!

I like it for the Cubs, IF IF IF they can lock Nomar up (like talk to him about getting a long term deal done).

They're loaded with pitching in the minors:
Guzman
Sisco has potential

On top of Prior, Zambrano, and Wood

They're covered, IMO. Clement is good, but certainly not a superstar caliber pitcher, which Nomar brings to the table. Defense is a liability (Nomar+Walker equates to errors galore...Aramis doesn't help either), but that sort of bat is rare.
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Postby AcidRock23 » Fri Jul 02, 2004 2:29 pm

Nomar has brought 'superstar' caliber performance to the table in the past but he has not been delivering this year, even giving him a break for the injury. Sure it's an icky situation but, if he wants to be taken seriously as a player, pouting in the dugout while hitting .235 is not the way that's going to happen.

The Cubs have one petulant 'superstar'/ former 'superstar' already. One kind of wildcard thing would be if Nomar would respond favorably to a dose of Dusty and the fans/ scene @ Wrigley and get back on the bus. I'd like to see that happen a lot but, if I were gambling, I'd keep Clement.
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Postby Smizzy » Fri Jul 02, 2004 2:33 pm

This thread is a waste of time.......
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Postby AcidRock23 » Fri Jul 02, 2004 3:16 pm

Smizzy wrote:This thread is a waste of time.......



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Postby Smizzy » Fri Jul 02, 2004 3:18 pm

AcidRock23 wrote:
Smizzy wrote:This thread is a waste of time.......



?????


Meaning...this trade will never happen....
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Postby CubsFan7724 » Fri Jul 02, 2004 3:20 pm

warrick95 wrote:Noooooooo not Urbina!

I like it for the Cubs, IF IF IF they can lock Nomar up (like talk to him about getting a long term deal done).

They're loaded with pitching in the minors:
Guzman
Sisco has potential

On top of Prior, Zambrano, and Wood

They're covered, IMO. Clement is good, but certainly not a superstar caliber pitcher, which Nomar brings to the table. Defense is a liability (Nomar+Walker equates to errors galore...Aramis doesn't help either), but that sort of bat is rare.

Have you watched any Cubs games this year? Aramis's D has been great. Im pretty sure he doesn't have any errors. Hes been making big plays on bunts and short hits. I think he has really improved in the fielding department.
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Postby AcidRock23 » Fri Jul 02, 2004 3:22 pm

I was just thinking that's probably what you were getting at!!! D'oh.

Smizzy wrote:
AcidRock23 wrote:
Smizzy wrote:This thread is a waste of time.......



?????


Meaning...this trade will never happen....
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Postby Nomar4prez » Fri Jul 02, 2004 3:40 pm

CubsFan7724 wrote:
warrick95 wrote:Noooooooo not Urbina!

I like it for the Cubs, IF IF IF they can lock Nomar up (like talk to him about getting a long term deal done).

They're loaded with pitching in the minors:
Guzman
Sisco has potential

On top of Prior, Zambrano, and Wood

They're covered, IMO. Clement is good, but certainly not a superstar caliber pitcher, which Nomar brings to the table. Defense is a liability (Nomar+Walker equates to errors galore...Aramis doesn't help either), but that sort of bat is rare.

Have you watched any Cubs games this year? Aramis's D has been great. Im pretty sure he doesn't have any errors. Hes been making big plays on bunts and short hits. I think he has really improved in the fielding department.


Having arguably the best defensive 1b doesn't hurt either.
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Postby SonsofSlam04 » Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:53 pm

I am really hoping the Sox somehow get Delgado or Clement.. either deal would help them .. immensely.. probably getting Clement more so at this juncture.... That team needs a serious wakeup call... Trading Nomar should shake them awake! Its clear that Nomar doesnt want to be there... get rid of him !
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