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Postby DaQ » Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:20 am

I looked at my league standings today; yesterday, I was in te middle of the pack comfortably and today, I'm in last.

My team that looked great in April is now livin' it up in the cellar. I'm looking at the roster and I don't see a last place team. Can you guys explain it (NOT ROTO)?

My team (day 1/now) *-on both teams, but switched positions

C - Varitek, Hammock/Varitek
1B - Teixeira, Millar*/C.Wilson )picked him up 2nd day of the sesaon), Hafner2B - M. Young (moved to SS), Spivey/A.Soriano
3B - Burroughs, Ensberg/Hillenbrand, Burroughs
SS - Crosby, Cintron/Renteria, Crosby
LF - Pujols , Burnitz*/Pujols, Holliday
CF - Baldelli, Cameron/ Baldelli, Burnitz
RF - Maggs, Dye/Maggs, Millar
SP - Mulder
SP - Oswalt
SP - Webb
SP - Jerome Williams
SP - Myers
SP - Horacio Ramirez/Cliff Lee
SP - none/Lieber
MR - Felix Rodriguez/Takatsu
MR - Farnsworth/Worrell
MR - Valverde/Gordon
CL - Smoltz
CL - Looper
CL - Herges/Urbina

This team went down over 300 pts in June amd went from a high of 2nd place to last (from "wild card" to 300pts out of "wild card" and 400pts out of first). I don't know how it happened, but there must be some reasons.
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Postby BigMusky » Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:36 am

what happened is Maggs is hurt....Soriano is playing like crap.....Oswalt is just starting to pitch to his potential....Webb should be cut....Renteria is crap right now......Varitek and Burnitz have cooled off.



I also have Oswalt, Soriano, Maggs, and did have Webb and Burnitz before I cut there asses. But I am still in Second place because I have a better supporting cast then you do even though Mulder and Pujols are awesome.
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Postby Madison » Fri Jul 02, 2004 1:50 am

BigMusky wrote:....Soriano is playing like crap.........


He is? :-?

.297-12-45 with 37 runs and 8 steals on the year.

.325-6-16 with 19 runs and 3 steals in the last month.

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Postby wrveres » Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:31 am

could you imagine playing in a league where you can just cut Webb. I can promise he is not a FA in any of my leagues.
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Postby BigMusky » Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:41 am

it is an eight man league. We only carry 21 guys too, there is just not enough room to carry all the good pitchers. It is fun though because there are always guys on the FA list that can actually play.

Soriano has picked it up lately...but considering I picked him ahead of guys like Vlad, Pujols, Beltran, Manny, Thome...I am still disappointed.
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Postby DaQ » Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:10 am

12 team. 28 player rosters

It's somewhat deep
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Postby wrveres » Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:22 am

not sure about your scoring so that might have something to do with it ..



but if it were my team, I would move Wilson to C and Pujols to 1B, thats where they have the most value. I would then start shopping Varitek and Renteria to find me a 3B and another OF. They should be able to fetch a nice upgrade there. So then you would have ..
Crosby has been playing up to his early season expectations after getting off to a slow start. You will get a better 3B for Renteria by name alone. He is still the best SS in the NL right?
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Postby DaQ » Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:45 am

wrveres wrote:not sure about your scoring so that might have something to do with it ..



but if it were my team, I would move Wilson to C and Pujols to 1B, thats where they have the most value. I would then start shopping Varitek and Renteria to find me a 3B and another OF. They should be able to fetch a nice upgrade there. So then you would have ..
Crosby has been playing up to his early season expectations after getting off to a slow start. You will get a better 3B for Renteria by name alone. He is still the best SS in the NL right?


SOunds like a good plan but Wilson is not eligible at catcher :~(
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Postby sinicalypse » Fri Jul 02, 2004 4:29 pm

welp, you know, depending on how competitive the league is, its quite possible to get buried early, or just not do that good early, then look like absolute shite down the stretch.

i'm in an ultra-competitive league where nary a save goes by unclaimed and the such, and well.... i started off pathetically in offense, decent in pitching (save the wins category) and now even tho my team has played as well as anyone's (by my estimation) i'm perpetually in 7th-10th place, losing 2-3 points on days where i did pretty good.

my team isnt all that terrible either, tho when you look at the first position i list, catcher, yuo can see what i mean

c - posada
1b - frank thomas
2b - jerry hairston jr
ss - edgar renteria
3b - rob mackowiak
OF - vladimir guerrero*
OF - sammy sosa
OF - pat burrell
util/OF - corey patterson
bench/1b/OF - phil nevin
bench/2b/SS - tony womack
bench/OF - alex "drrrty" sanchez

SP* - carlos zambrano, roy oswalt, carl pavano, derek lowe, jake westbrook
RP - mariano rivera, danny kolb, chacon, julio

the * denotes that i traded mark prior, carlos lee, and oliver perez for vladimir guerrero, phil nevin, and jose reyes at the end of may, so i havent had a full season of vlad, still, he's basically put up .339/8/33/5 with 24 runs in that month i've had him, which is fine by me. prior has pitched well, but only has one win thus far, so i'm thinking i might have done OK, especially seeing as my offense is stagnant (like 2/3/3/8/5 respectively) when speaking euphemistically.

so yeah, i dont see any glaring holes in my team, but at the same time, i dont see me finishing higher than 8th when its sall sauid and done. thats because i suck, naturally.
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Postby WeaponsMasProduction » Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:18 pm

i know the feeling, i honestly think i have the est team in my league and im in 7th place. i know that sounds crazy but heres my roster

c varitek/pierzinski
1b huff
2b soriano
3b arod
ss reyes
of vlad
of berkman
of green/floyd/baldelli/
util hunter/gerut

sp mussina
sp brown
sp eaton
sp odalis
sp pineiro
sp contreras
rp benetez
rp lidge
rp riske
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