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Postby DieHardCubbie » Mon Jun 28, 2004 9:52 pm

thetongueofire wrote:Eaton is totally valid imo.. been sayin' this since the time he had a 6.00 era. no one listens to me... :-D


I agree with you ...Eaton is the better of the group for this year...then Zito and Willis.... :-)
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Postby athxu » Mon Jun 28, 2004 11:18 pm

One possibility with Zito is to start him only when he pitches against weak(er) teams. In one of those mind-numbing Zito sucks/rocks arguments I've had with Zito lovers, GSes (sp?) suggested that Zito is solid except the second consecutive time he faces top offensive teams. If you look at it, Zito has been LIT UP in those games against the NYY and TEX, but has looked decent otherwise.

That seems stretching it, but it is certainly possible that Zito is now one of those pitchers who thrives against undisciplined hitters, and doesn't against better ones, kind of like a pitching version of Vinny C. If you can handle platooning, you might consider doing that. It'd be interested to see if this holds up for the rest of the season.

I for one love platooning Vinny. He puts up amazing numbers in Coors. These are the kind of choices that turns dividends over the course of a season.

Thanks Gses for the info! ;-D
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Postby HOOTIE » Tue Jun 29, 2004 12:22 am

Never been a big Millwood fan. Peavy is easily better. Carpenter shouldn't be available either.
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Postby agchris02 » Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:50 am

dont drop any of those guys, worst case trade them for hitting and grab peavy (who is almost healthy)
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Postby cartman1_24 » Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:12 am

I gotta say I'm struggling with the same sort of thing in my league. A guy just released Webb the other day and he comes off the wire here in a few min. I can't decide whether or not to drop someone for him.

Carpenter, Vasquez, Zito, Moyer, Milton, Robertson, Lowe, W. Williams, AJ Burnett, Gagne, Wickman, Riske


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Postby athxu » Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:22 am

cartman1_24 wrote:I gotta say I'm struggling with the same sort of thing in my league. A guy just released Webb the other day and he comes off the wire here in a few min. I can't decide whether or not to drop someone for him.

Carpenter, Vasquez, Zito, Moyer, Milton, Robertson, Lowe, W. Williams, AJ Burnett, Gagne, Wickman, Riske


What to do...


Drop Burnett or Riske. If Webb is dropped, there has to be pitchers as good or better than those two.
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Postby cartman1_24 » Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:28 am

I'll put it to you this way...he got frustrated with Webb and dropped him for Contreas. People left on the wire are Ishii, Greinke, D Wells, BJ Ryan, Worrell are the top guys left.....


Its pretty slim out there....
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Postby athxu » Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:29 am

cartman1_24 wrote:I'll put it to you this way...he got frustrated with Webb and dropped him for Contreas. People left on the wire are Ishii, Greinke, D Wells, BJ Ryan, Worrell are the top guys left.....


Its pretty slim out there....


In that case I would still drop Riske. You can probably swing a trade with Webb for a better reliever than Riske.
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