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Postby LionsandTigersOhMy » Thu Jun 24, 2004 4:18 pm

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Postby CrazyPooja90 » Thu Jun 24, 2004 4:25 pm

sigh, so sick of defending Bonds-I give up.


I yearn for the good ole days. When Craig Biggio retires he should teach an ethics class to all the up and comers in MLB. Starting with Matt Bush. Lol.
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Postby LionsandTigersOhMy » Thu Jun 24, 2004 5:36 pm

Theres nothing to defend! The circumstantial evidence alone could have him convicted! Everyone just needs to face the fact that Bonds takes roids and that is the reason that he is so good!
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Postby Madison » Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:15 am

Just add it to the ever growing list of stuff against Bonds. Eventually they might be able to get it all figured out and the truth will be known.
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Postby Nomar4prez » Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:23 am

LionsandTigersOhMy wrote:Theres nothing to defend! The circumstantial evidence alone could have him convicted! Everyone just needs to face the fact that Bonds takes roids and that is the reason that he is so good!


Even without 'roids(if he is even on them), he would easily be one of the best players in the game. He was one of the best players when he wasn't as big as he is. He's a jerk, but there's no doubt, steriods or not, that he is one of the best players of all-time.
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Postby Urge » Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:26 am

MLB won't do anything to Bonds because they'll never be able to prove he took any steroids. He said/she said isn't going to cut it, especially when it's third hand coming from somebody who heard it from somebody else.
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Postby LionsandTigersOhMy » Fri Jun 25, 2004 1:19 am

I disagree that he is one of the best of all time. They did a list about 1999 of the 50 greatest and Bonds was no where to be seen. So in 5 years he leapfrogged everyone who ever played and became the best? Give me a break! Without roids he was 280 30 (maybe) and 100! Thats good dont get me wrong, but FAR from even being mentioned in the same breath as the true greats of the game!
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Postby Urge » Fri Jun 25, 2004 1:31 am

Through the end of '99 Bonds average season was .288, 32 HR, 93 RBI, 104 Runs, 33 SB. How many other guys in history ever averaged 30/30 over 14 seasons?
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Postby LBJackal » Fri Jun 25, 2004 1:49 am

And then add 5 seasons as the best hitter in baseball.............I think he can make a case for best hitter all-time. Although I still say the Babe is the best all time. Bonds is certainly the best post WWII IMO.
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Postby Nomar4prez » Fri Jun 25, 2004 9:52 am

LionsandTigersOhMy wrote:I disagree that he is one of the best of all time. They did a list about 1999 of the 50 greatest and Bonds was no where to be seen. So in 5 years he leapfrogged everyone who ever played and became the best? Give me a break! Without roids he was 280 30 (maybe) and 100! Thats good dont get me wrong, but FAR from even being mentioned in the same breath as the true greats of the game!


Again, 'roids isn't going to add to your average. All 'riods will do is add distance to your ball.
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