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Postby Transmogrifier » Tue Jun 22, 2004 9:09 pm

Guys, if you really want to argue this, I'm all game. But I'm not going to do it if you're throwing out this liberal bashing stuff again.

I spent the past two days at a non-proliferation conference. I know the threats.

Want some scary reading?:

http://www.nti.org/e_research/cnwm/over ... report.asp

When you're finished that, let's talk.

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Postby Lofunzo » Tue Jun 22, 2004 9:29 pm

Urge wrote:Everybody knows it's a war for oil.

Speaking of oil, I'm still paying near record high prices for gas, where's my damn oil?


I agree with that. There are a lot of countries that have similar problems but we really seem to be concerned with the ones sitting on a gold mine of oil. :-?
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Postby wkelly91 » Tue Jun 22, 2004 9:39 pm

Transmogrifier wrote:Guys, if you really want to argue this, I'm all game. But I'm not going to do it if you're throwing out this liberal bashing stuff again.

I spent the past two days at a non-proliferation conference. I know the threats.

Want some scary reading?:

http://www.nti.org/e_research/cnwm/over ... report.asp

When you're finished that, let's talk.

;-)


It is scary the world we live in. It's even more scary that people are forgetting what 911 represents. It's also scary that politicians put partisanship ahead of the safety of the American public.

One million people die from a dirty bomb in NYC.

When will we take action....after that :-?
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Postby LionsandTigersOhMy » Tue Jun 22, 2004 9:41 pm

Just so happens thats where the terrorist are Lofunzo.

If they were Chinese terrorist thats where we would be.
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Postby Absolutely Adequate » Tue Jun 22, 2004 9:43 pm

Congrats on your 1000th post.

Has it occured to you that maybe you and I have different ideas about what it means to "do something" about terrorism. I don't want to forget 9/11. I want to prevent another attack. And declaring a holy war - as this administration has done - has only recruited more members for al qaida.

Here's the difference between you and I when it comes to doing something about terrorism. You want to get the guy that did it this time and some of his buddies - I want to prevent it from ever happening again.
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Postby wkelly91 » Tue Jun 22, 2004 9:51 pm

Absolutely Adequate wrote:Congrats on your 1000th post.

Has it occured to you that maybe you and I have different ideas about what it means to "do something" about terrorism. I don't want to forget 9/11. I want to prevent another attack. And declaring a holy war - as this administration has done - has only recruited more members for al qaida.

Here's the difference between you and I when it comes to doing something about terrorism. You want to get the guy that did it this time and some of his buddies - I want to prevent it from ever happening again.


Hey I agree. You have to start somewhere, Afganistan, Iraq.....and anywhere else that harbors or funds ;-D terrorism.
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Postby Urge » Tue Jun 22, 2004 9:54 pm

You can't prevent terrorism from ever happening again any more than you can prevent murder or rape.
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Postby Transmogrifier » Tue Jun 22, 2004 10:09 pm

wkelly91 wrote:
Transmogrifier wrote:Guys, if you really want to argue this, I'm all game. But I'm not going to do it if you're throwing out this liberal bashing stuff again.

I spent the past two days at a non-proliferation conference. I know the threats.

Want some scary reading?:

http://www.nti.org/e_research/cnwm/over ... report.asp

When you're finished that, let's talk.

;-)


It is scary the world we live in. It's even more scary that people are forgetting what 911 represents. It's also scary that politicians put partisanship ahead of the safety of the American public.

One million people die from a dirty bomb in NYC.

When will we take action....after that :-?


1,000,000 people dying from a dirty bomb? Where are you getting your facts?

The only people that will die from a dirty bomb, roughly, are those that die from the initial, conventional exposion.

If you want a radiation dispersion of several city blocks, you need an enormous amount of HEU, which is not readily available, and not easily stolen. It'd be a ton or so.

RDD--Radiation dispersal devices--is more of an economic and pyschological threat. It is worse when people are saying a million people die from it--you're helping spread the hysteria.
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Postby Absolutely Adequate » Tue Jun 22, 2004 10:17 pm

Fantastic, Trans. I was off looking up that information, because I know the hysteria associated w/dirty bombs, but you knew offhand, didn't you?

In any case, you probably said it more clearly, concisely, and politely than I would have.
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Postby Transmogrifier » Tue Jun 22, 2004 10:19 pm

Absolutely Adequate wrote:Fantastic, Trans. I was off looking up that information, because I know the hysteria associated w/dirty bombs, but you knew offhand, didn't you?

In any case, you probably said it more clearly, concisely, and politely than I would have.


Yeah. This is what I do for a living. ;-)
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