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Postby acsguitar » Thu Jun 17, 2004 11:10 am

Just wondering if anyone has any incite on Lidge and if hes gonna take Dotels job??

His stats are very nice and I might try to grab him in a glavine for ortiz trade
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Postby Pablo975 » Thu Jun 17, 2004 11:13 am

There was an earlier thread about this. Lidge will probably not close this year.....but he might close next week for all anyone knows because:

1) It's impossible to know if Dotel will become dominant as the closer or blow up.

2) Jimy Williams is crazy.

Either way, he puts up stud numbers, even as a middle relief guy. Get him.
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Postby DMXdawg » Thu Jun 17, 2004 11:19 am

Why are you guys hating Dotel? The reason he blew that save was b/c 1) Berkman dropped that double
2) Dumb Jimy made him pitch 2 innings and 46 pitches the day before. If any of you haters actually watched the cubs ame, he didn't have much pop at all.

Lidge will not close. He's a setup man.
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Postby phunkadelic » Thu Jun 17, 2004 11:20 am

Everyone was asking the same thing about Dotel a couple of years ago. Now Wagner is an elite closer.

Dotel's career K/BB ratio: 2.8:1
Lidge's career K/BB ratio: 2.7:1

Both awesome ratios.

Even though Lidge is tearing it up this year, I don't see Dotel losing his job. He is the better pitcher (not to mentioned how disgruntled he'd be if they yanked him).
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Postby LBJackal » Thu Jun 17, 2004 3:07 pm

DMXdawg wrote:Lidge will not close. He's a setup man.


And so is K-Rod, right?

How can you say Lidge will never close? Both him and Dotel are in the same boat as far as I'm concerned: great setup-men with tons of K's. I'm sure everybody was saying Dotel will never be a closer, until it happened this year.........if Dotel falters, I can see Lidge getting a shot at closing. Great setup men don't always translate into great closers, so I don't see why they wouldn't give both of them a shot if Dotel hits a few rough spots. Especially with as good as Lidge has been.
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Postby GucciBaseballs » Thu Jun 17, 2004 3:26 pm

LBJackal wrote:
DMXdawg wrote:Lidge will not close. He's a setup man.


And so is K-Rod, right?

How can you say Lidge will never close? Both him and Dotel are in the same boat as far as I'm concerned: great setup-men with tons of K's. I'm sure everybody was saying Dotel will never be a closer, until it happened this year.........if Dotel falters, I can see Lidge getting a shot at closing. Great setup men don't always translate into great closers, so I don't see why they wouldn't give both of them a shot if Dotel hits a few rough spots. Especially with as good as Lidge has been.


Not to mention undoubtedly, when Lidge is a free agent he will jump ship for a nice contract to close for another club
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Postby mikcou » Thu Jun 17, 2004 3:43 pm

LBJackal wrote:
DMXdawg wrote:Lidge will not close. He's a setup man.


And so is K-Rod, right?

How can you say Lidge will never close? Both him and Dotel are in the same boat as far as I'm concerned: great setup-men with tons of K's. I'm sure everybody was saying Dotel will never be a closer, until it happened this year.........if Dotel falters, I can see Lidge getting a shot at closing. Great setup men don't always translate into great closers, so I don't see why they wouldn't give both of them a shot if Dotel hits a few rough spots. Especially with as good as Lidge has been.


true if Dotel goes through a ruff spot lidge will probably get the call to close
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Postby G-Man » Thu Jun 17, 2004 3:53 pm

mikcou wrote:true if Dotel goes through a ruff spot lidge will probably get the call to close


I'd say right now qualifies as a "ruff spot"....
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Postby Pedantic » Thu Jun 17, 2004 4:00 pm

G-Man wrote:
mikcou wrote:true if Dotel goes through a ruff spot lidge will probably get the call to close


I'd say right now qualifies as a "ruff spot"....


How does now qualify as a rough spot? He has a 3.13 ERA with 13.07 K/9 and 3.29 K/BB, as well as a .216 BAA. I'll bet most relievers in the Majors wish they had "rough spots" like these.
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Postby KolbSaves » Thu Jun 17, 2004 4:06 pm

and even better numbers in the last month
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