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Postby Arrowhead Nation » Mon Jun 14, 2004 1:32 am

LBJackal wrote:
Quaker wrote:One should be careful when saying 30 or so homeruns in a season isn't that impressive. Balls didn't always fly out of the park like the do today. In 1981 for example, 22 HRs led the AL and 31 led the NL.


Yes, but that's all Rice did. Batted .300 with 30 HR's. He played a lot of DH and a player's fielding should also come into play when you're judging who should be in the Hall. Maybe I'm under-estimating the 30 HR's, and for a player to do that and still have a good BA obviously requires a lot of skill. But to me, HOF means far and above just "good". I guess if I saw the stats of the other elite players in his prime I coudl make a better judgement.


I know he played a diff position, but look at Brett...he never hit more than 35 and his career AVG was .305 I believe....I think RIce should be in.....the only guys I would sya no to so far are Mattingly, Belle, and Murphy
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Postby blankman » Mon Jun 14, 2004 1:47 am

HOOTIE wrote:BLANKMAN and LO, nice call on Donnie. You both are great objective Yank fans.

I will however say i think Ripken is the 3rd best ss ever, not counting current players. While he was overrated for the streak, he was very underrated for his defense.


Thanks Hootie. And to clarify for other people on my Ripken statement. By no means did I say Ripken is not HOF material; I only said I believe that the average fan deems him better than he really was and in this way I think he is overrated- (again overrated does not mean bad; it means not as good as many believe someone to be).
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Postby CrazyPooja90 » Mon Jun 14, 2004 2:03 am

I believe it has been said once already, but Shoeless F'n joe Jackson!
"I'm going to meet the greatest umpire of all, and he knows I'm innocent."

-Shoeless Joe Jackson
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Postby Super GM » Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:40 am

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Postby mpriley » Mon Jun 14, 2004 9:18 am

Not only are Trammell's hitting numbers HOF worthy for an 80s SS, but his fielding was very solid as well. I realize that fielding percentage doesn't prove everything, but Trammell's career fielding percentage was only .002 points below that of Ozzie Smith, who, for reasons inexplicable to me, is somehow a no-brainer first-ballot HOFer, when Trammell was certainly the more complete player.
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Postby wkelly91 » Mon Jun 14, 2004 9:24 am

Super GM wrote:Jeff Blauser :-D


Big Chin Hall of Fame :-o
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Postby RedsRebirth » Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:24 am

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Postby frog99 » Mon Jun 14, 2004 2:59 pm

The HOF standards have gotten higher over time. Look at the guys who were elected in the 1940's-1960's. i lot of just good but not necessarily great players.


my vote goes to Santo, Rice, ,Byleven and Sandberg.


maybe(some great years some terrible, but there are worse players in the HOF):
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Don Mattingly
Joe Gordon
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Postby Lofunzo » Mon Jun 14, 2004 3:04 pm

frog99 wrote:The HOF standards have gotten higher over time. Look at the guys who were elected in the 1940's-1960's. i lot of just good but not necessarily great players.


That is to be expected as the athletes have gotten better, the balls juicier, and the parks smaller. 50 HR (for example) was the exception and not the norm.
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Postby LionsandTigersOhMy » Mon Jun 14, 2004 3:17 pm

Top 3 are Trammell, Blyleven, and Sandberg.
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