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Postby KULCAT » Mon Jun 14, 2004 3:14 pm

now now no need to insult ZIG

but it is true, I have been arguing with ZIG on this topic ALL SEASON LONG, my case was simple Santana is just plain too nasty and too good to cut. Coming into the season I had him ranked #15 of ALL SP behind Beckett at 14. Santana is young and the sky is the limit, he is the ACE of the Twins and thats all there is too it. Santana is a 200 K pitcher w/ potential to win 17 games this year. He is that good, he is the real deal, for anyone who cut him, Im sorry, you should have been patient and you should have taken the advice of many here (well I guess there was drop him advice also)

Johan just too much talent to ever give on, he is that good guys, and you don'y cut a guy who could

3's ERA potential
1.15 whip potential
17+ win potential
200 K's potential

Im MUCH higher on Johan then I am Piniero, while I still wouldn't cut Piniero, I would do it if I had too, however I would have never cut Johan at any point this season ;-D
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Nah im not insulting him, just having a little fun on the expense of out of the cafe´s number one Santana hater. I have this theory Johan did something nastu to him, stole a girl away, gave him an atomic wedgie... you know something of that sort
As for Pineiro or Santana id rather have Santana cause of his k´s and his team but Pineior is looking very solid right now. He´s a food number 2 starter if he could get out of Seattle
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Postby KULCAT » Mon Jun 14, 2004 3:17 pm

Zito is God wrote:I'll bury this topic out and admit that that poor Mets couldn't put up numbers vs him. I was on vacation and come back to find THIS!

He had a good night, no quesion, not time to jump on the bandweagon yet fellas, just remmember then consecutive bad starts he gave you.


Just as long as its pointed out that ive never got off tha wagon. Ive been burned(Affeldt) and been redemed(Drew) with a strategy of taking chances on potential rather than dependable average players and ill keep doing it
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Postby Yikes » Sun Jun 20, 2004 4:57 pm

8IP 0.75WHIP 2ER 12K
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I'm starting to believe.
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Postby Strasil42 » Sun Jun 20, 2004 5:14 pm

Hes looking better and better.
I watched the entire game today, and his stuff was NASTY.
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Postby NY Yankees Fan 2004 » Sun Jun 20, 2004 5:18 pm

I saw the game since I have a free preview of Extra Inning and he looked great! He has really stepped up for me! With Mussina and Wood out and Zito sucking I needed a solid outing like today! ;-D
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Postby Twinskies » Sun Jun 20, 2004 5:21 pm

After today there's no way you can argue that Santana isn't back among the elite pitchers in the game. All of those people who gave up on him should be eating their words by now, and kicking themselves for the rest of the season. !+)
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Postby KolbSaves » Sun Jun 20, 2004 5:40 pm

Three starts against three easy teams does not an elite make.
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Postby matmat » Sun Jun 20, 2004 5:44 pm

KolbSaves wrote:Three starts against three easy teams does not an elite make.


the chisox are not really a weak hitting team.
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Postby KolbSaves » Sun Jun 20, 2004 5:45 pm

huh? he got lit the last time he faced CWS
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Postby ramble2 » Sun Jun 20, 2004 5:48 pm

KolbSaves wrote:Three starts against three easy teams does not an elite make.


Yeah, it's a little early to say Santana is among the elite. I like the trend we've been seeing, and today's performance was great. I've stuck with him this season and still believe that he'll continue to produce well. Give him a few more starts before we place him among the elite.

On the other hand, if you haven't bought Santana on the cheap, the sale was probably over today.
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