Is Koch out? If so...who is in? - Fantasy Baseball Cafe 2014 Fantasy Baseball Cafe
100% Deposit Bonus for Cafe Members!

Return to Baseball Leftovers

Is Koch out? If so...who is in?

Moderator: Baseball Moderators

Is Koch out? If so...who is in?

Postby callistobass » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:56 pm

MArte and Mr. Zero are waiting in the wings.. any thoughts?
-Callistobass
callistobass
Minor League Mentor
Minor League Mentor

User avatar

Posts: 397
Joined: 8 Mar 2004
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: Illinois

Postby KULCAT » Mon Jun 07, 2004 2:13 pm

He´s not out yet, Not a top of the line closer but had been pretty good until yesterday. Still 8 out 11
In case he goes down it would Takatsu cause Marte is left handed specialist
"Nothing is this world worth remembering was ever accomplished without Pasion"-Hegel
KULCAT
Major League Manager
Major League Manager

User avatar
Fantasy Expert
Posts: 1814
(Past Year: 6)
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: Panama mi bella Panama

Postby John Bonzo » Mon Jun 07, 2004 2:26 pm

KULCAT wrote:In case he goes down it would Takatsu cause Marte is left handed specialist


I agree, and I would recommend picking up Takatsu if it be at all possible. Koch has looked terrible lately and 1-2 more bad outings and he will lose the job in my opinion.
John Bonzo
Major League Manager
Major League Manager

User avatar

Posts: 1285
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: Houston, TX

Postby slomo007 » Mon Jun 07, 2004 3:04 pm

He isn't out officially...but I'd be surprised to see him get the next save opp. If Guillen does give him one more, and he blows it, I would say there is a 99.999% chance it would be his last.
slomo007
Hall of Fame Hero
Hall of Fame Hero

User avatar
CafeholicEagle Eye
Posts: 11960
Joined: 31 May 2003
Home Cafe: Baseball

Postby warrick95 » Mon Jun 07, 2004 3:14 pm

Committee is possible, too, like Manuel did with Marte and Gordon last year, playing matchups. Since both Taktasu and Marte have great ratios, starting both isn't a bad idea if you have the room to do so (if a committee is the answer).
warrick95
Hall of Fame Hero
Hall of Fame Hero

User avatar
CafeholicCafe RankerMock(ing) DrafterLucky Ladders Weekly Winner
Posts: 5440
Joined: 27 May 2003
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: The empty seat next to the Tampa Bay heckler

Postby slomo007 » Mon Jun 07, 2004 3:15 pm

warrick95 wrote:Committee is possible, too, like Manuel did with Marte and Gordon last year, playing matchups. Since both Taktasu and Marte have great ratios, starting both isn't a bad idea if you have the room to do so (if a committee is the answer).


There goes warrick again with his Marte lovin'. :*)
slomo007
Hall of Fame Hero
Hall of Fame Hero

User avatar
CafeholicEagle Eye
Posts: 11960
Joined: 31 May 2003
Home Cafe: Baseball

Postby KolbSaves » Mon Jun 07, 2004 3:19 pm

What is the reason that Takatsu doesn't get many innings? Just coincidence so far?
"If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants."
-Isaac Newton
KolbSaves
General Manager
General Manager

User avatar
CafeholicPick 3 Weekly WinnerLucky Ladders Weekly Winner
Posts: 3477
Joined: 10 Feb 2004
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: Detroit, MI

Postby slomo007 » Mon Jun 07, 2004 3:23 pm

I could be wrong...but I think it was because he had a terrible spring, so the CWS were actually afraid to use him at first. I've noticed he has pitched more innings lately, and has actually become a very reliable setup man. I think he will get the job, and not have to share it very much at all. I mean if they need to get out a tough left-handed hitter, I could see Marte being used then...but I would expect a large majority to go to Takatsu.

Koch sucks, there's no reason for him to be closing, except his contract. In a tight race like Chicago is in though, they don't have the patience to put up with him....despite his contract.
slomo007
Hall of Fame Hero
Hall of Fame Hero

User avatar
CafeholicEagle Eye
Posts: 11960
Joined: 31 May 2003
Home Cafe: Baseball

Postby warrick95 » Mon Jun 07, 2004 3:23 pm

slomo007 wrote:
warrick95 wrote:Committee is possible, too, like Manuel did with Marte and Gordon last year, playing matchups. Since both Taktasu and Marte have great ratios, starting both isn't a bad idea if you have the room to do so (if a committee is the answer).


There goes warrick again with his Marte lovin'. :*)


Slomo, if the posts keep coming up, I gotta keep giving my boy props. :-D

Kolb, the Sox haven't gotten many save opps to hold or save on a whole this year...which is one reason why Koch hasn't lost his job yet. He hasn't gotten the opportunity to blow 'em. Takatsu is a set up man and thus hasn't gotten chances. It's different with Marte, who's used sometimes to get lefties out in key situations (down 1 would work too).
warrick95
Hall of Fame Hero
Hall of Fame Hero

User avatar
CafeholicCafe RankerMock(ing) DrafterLucky Ladders Weekly Winner
Posts: 5440
Joined: 27 May 2003
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: The empty seat next to the Tampa Bay heckler

Postby d18Mike » Mon Jun 07, 2004 4:04 pm

By choosing either Marte or Takatsu to close, the WS go against conventional closer wisdom (not necessarily a bad thing). Marte is LH specialist. Takatsu is a soft-tosser, not unlike his countryman Shiggy.

I think the decision to stick with Koch is just plain herd mentaility: he may be performing poorly but he is what a closer should look like on paper. Unfortunately for the Sox, the game is played on the field not on paper.

But with no other options I think they will retreat to the middle ground, CBC.
d18Mike
Major League Manager
Major League Manager


Posts: 1696
Joined: 27 Jul 2003
Home Cafe: Baseball


Return to Baseball Leftovers

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: hondo4mvp, lesleyls16, NikkiSixx, TheTrith and 14 guests

Forums Articles & Tips Sleepers Rankings Leagues


Today's Games
Friday, Apr. 18
(All times are EST, weather icons show forecast for game time)

Toronto at Cleveland
(2:20 pm)
LA Angels at Detroit
(7:05 pm)
Milwaukee at Pittsburgh
(7:05 pm)
St. Louis at Washington
(7:05 pm)
Miami at Miami
(7:08 pm)
indoors
NY Yankees at Tampa Bay
(7:10 pm)
indoors
Seattle at Seattle
(7:10 pm)
Atlanta at NY Mets
(7:10 pm)
Baltimore at Boston
(7:10 pm)
Chi White Sox at Texas
(8:05 pm)
Minnesota at Kansas City
(8:10 pm)
Philadelphia at Colorado
(8:40 pm)
Houston at Oakland
(10:05 pm)
Arizona at LA Dodgers
(10:10 pm)
San Francisco at San Diego
(10:10 pm)

  • Fantasy Baseball
  • Article Submissions
  • Privacy Statement
  • Site Survey 
  • Contact