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Postby CrazyPooja90 » Sun Jun 06, 2004 11:34 pm

Pedro wrote:More stathead propaganda. :-t


Yes and no. The stats on how a batter does versus a pitcher should be taken into consideration when you're deciding to start him, but you shouldn't buy into the stats too much
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Postby Pedro » Sun Jun 06, 2004 11:49 pm

Okay, let me ask you this.

You have Mike Hessman on the bench, and Barry Bonds on deck. Mike Hessman is 7/11 lifetime against said pitcher, while Barry is 2/12, who are you going to use?
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Postby willieroe » Sun Jun 06, 2004 11:52 pm

Pedro wrote:Okay, let me ask you this.

You have Mike Hessman on the bench, and Barry Bonds on deck. Mike Hessman is 7/11 lifetime against said pitcher, while Barry is 2/12, who are you going to use?


How do you know that Barry Bonds is better than Mike Hessman without using "stathead propaganda"? :-D
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Postby Pedro » Sun Jun 06, 2004 11:53 pm

willieroe wrote:
Pedro wrote:Okay, let me ask you this.

You have Mike Hessman on the bench, and Barry Bonds on deck. Mike Hessman is 7/11 lifetime against said pitcher, while Barry is 2/12, who are you going to use?


How do you know that Barry Bonds is better than Mike Hessman without using "stathead propaganda"? :-D


Common sense, there's a difference.
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Postby CrazyPooja90 » Sun Jun 06, 2004 11:53 pm

Pedro wrote:Okay, let me ask you this.

You have Mike Hessman on the bench, and Barry Bonds on deck. Mike Hessman is 7/11 lifetime against said pitcher, while Barry is 2/12, who are you going to use?


No I understand what your saying, and I agree, to an extent. It is just if your deciding betwen John Mabry and Ray Lankford (two of my all time favorite cards) on who to start in LF with Glavine pitching, and Mabry is 3/18 life time with 10 K's, and Lankford is 9/14 with a HR and a 5 ribeyes, who do you start? How the batter does versus a pitcher is just one stat of many to be taken account when deciding who to go with.
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Postby thehat » Sun Jun 06, 2004 11:54 pm

You kidding, Pedro?

The point is that stats such as these can help deciding who to start when there's a decision that needs to be made. Your example is ridiculous.
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Postby Mild Thing » Sun Jun 06, 2004 11:55 pm

Pedro wrote:Okay, let me ask you this.

You have Mike Hessman on the bench, and Barry Bonds on deck. Mike Hessman is 7/11 lifetime against said pitcher, while Barry is 2/12, who are you going to use?


Stupid argument. :-t Using a hitter's lifetime average against a pitcher is only one criteria. Obviously Bonds should start all times over Hessman. I look at this statistic if trying to decide between two roughly equivalent players. But it's not the only criteria. I also consider how hot the hitter is, how hot the pitcher is, etc..
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Postby Pedro » Mon Jun 07, 2004 12:01 am

Forget it, don't feel like getting into another argument.
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Postby Amazinz » Mon Jun 07, 2004 10:47 am

Pedro wrote:Forget it, don't feel like getting into another argument.

You should forget it because it was a silly argument to begin with. We we referring to using BvP splits with "everything else being equal". Your Bonds/Hessman example doesn't fly becuase this is obviously not an equal situation. Please read more carefully before jumping to conclusions.
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Postby Pedro » Mon Jun 07, 2004 12:57 pm

Amazinz wrote:
Pedro wrote:Forget it, don't feel like getting into another argument.

You should forget it because it was a silly argument to begin with. We we referring to using BvP splits with "everything else being equal". Your Bonds/Hessman example doesn't fly becuase this is obviously not an equal situation. Please read more carefully before jumping to conclusions.


Hate to break the news to you buddy but you're the one who brought up the equal situation, and I sure as hell wasn't replying to you.

Now why don't you read the original topic and question.

Does a batter's history against an SP matter?

So does previous history matter at all?

I see no mention of equality. Do you buddy?

Please read more carefully before jumping to conclusions chief.
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