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Postby leafz17 » Sun May 30, 2004 5:55 pm

Which 2 of these 3 closers will have the best years?
Right now I have Mesa and Dotel but Kolb is sitting on the WW and is looking very enticing.
Does anyone have any projections on how many saves each of these guys will get by the end of the season?
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Postby slomo007 » Sun May 30, 2004 5:56 pm

1) Kolb
2) Dotel
3) Mesa
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Re: Mesa, Dotel and Kolb

Postby NZF » Sun May 30, 2004 6:02 pm

leafz17 wrote:Which 2 of these 3 closers will have the best years?
Right now I have Mesa and Dotel but Kolb is sitting on the WW and is looking very enticing.
Does anyone have any projections on how many saves each of these guys will get by the end of the season?


Kolb on the WW 8-o

Mesa 30-35

Kolb about the same

Dotel if he holds the job all season he will get 35-40. I was not convinced at the beginning of the season he would make an upper tier closer as the majority of people in here seemed to think.

From what I have seen from him this year I am now convinced of that. He is a far better set up man but with Lidge maybe a year or two away from the closers role and with that pitching and offense behind him he will still get many chances but will blow plenty as well.
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Postby thehat » Sun May 30, 2004 6:10 pm

Fully agree with New Zealand's assessment.
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Postby warrick95 » Sun May 30, 2004 6:10 pm

I'm still very high on Dotel. He usually starts off a bit slow but turns it on big time over the summer. I'm still saying a top tier closer...probably just out of the top 5.

Kolb comes next, then Mesa down low. I'm still not sold on Jose Mesa.
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Postby Yin_Xu88 » Sun May 30, 2004 7:50 pm

the problem with dotel is... the stros blow every1 out if they win.. just like today.. they were leading 3-0 at the bottom of the 8th, i was hoping it stay'd like that so dotel can come in and get the save. but noooo, bag annd berk( ;-D cuz i have him) had to both get 2 run HR's
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Postby G-Man » Sun May 30, 2004 7:51 pm

over the rest of the year -

1. Dotel
2. Kolb
3. Mesa
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Postby NZF » Sun May 30, 2004 7:54 pm

Yin_Xu88 wrote:the problem with dotel is... the stros blow every1 out if they win.. just like today.. they were leading 3-0 at the bottom of the 8th, i was hoping it stay'd like that so dotel can come in and get the save. but noooo, bag annd berk( ;-D cuz i have him) had to both get 2 run HR's


Dotel is having the same problems as Issy, Julio, Borowski and Smoltz. Just not getting regular save opps. which equates to regular work, which equates to premium performance.
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Postby RynMan » Sun May 30, 2004 8:21 pm

kolb's K rate is what puts me off him. Not because the K's really help you win the league, but because it means he isnt overpowering guys. And if hitters aren't striking out, then they are putting the ball into play, which means they are giving themselves more chances to get on base. I predict a rough patch for Kolb in the future if he doesnt start K'n guys more, cuz guys like that usually tend to go in and out of rough patches that can drag out.

Dote;, since his velocity is back he has looked sharp. I still think he is the best guy right here.

Mesa - suprising the crap outta me, as everyone else. I told my bro to drop him at the start of the year. Yesterday he abused me for it.
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Postby thetongueofire » Sun May 30, 2004 8:33 pm

Dotel.. a potential complete stud.. me still has faith
Kolb.. his K's will come, whip is the put-off
Mesa... hes not THAT good O:-)
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