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Postby tallmike » Mon Jun 24, 2002 1:25 pm

I am in deep 12 team AL only league. Standard roto except K's instead of whip.

Not much opportunity for me to move in offence and I now have Manny coming back. Offering a guy who is leading in wins and k's:

Juan Gone and Scott Schoenweis for Escobar and Ramon Ortiz.

He is last of the guys who haven't punted saves so won't lose spots there.

Am I bailing on Juan too early? Asking too much for him?
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Postby tallmike » Mon Jun 24, 2002 1:56 pm

Alternative is to go with another saves bottom feeder.

Something like

Juan Gone, Schoenweis, Halama and Hasegawa for Colon, Osuna and Foulke.

Not sure if fair or if he'll go for it. Always toughest to be subjective about your own trades. Colon is trade to NL risk (gone for me). The relievers from me are throw ins but replace the wins that he gives up with Colon.

Appreciate any thoughts.
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Postby Arlo » Mon Jun 24, 2002 5:12 pm

Gonzalez' power outage is a bit of a mystery. Yes, there's a chance that he'll bounce back, but things haven't looked good for him recently. If he won't help you much anyway then shopping him sounds like a good plan, although you would be selling low.

You may be asking for a bit much in the first deal, although if the other team doesn't need Escobar, it's possible that they'll go for it based on Juan's potential. Adding someone such as Hasegawa might help, but it'll depend on the other team's subjective opinion.

If you can replace the relievers you give up in the second deal, this looks good for you as well, although I'm not a great believer in Colon. I wouldn't exactly call those rp's throw ins - if you look at Hasegawa's stats per inning, they're a very nice shot in the arm.

In sum, I'd make the first offer and get the other sides opinions. It might take some tweaking to get this done, but that's part of the fun. Good luck! :-D
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Postby tallmike » Tue Jun 25, 2002 9:39 am

Second guy rejected quickly and first guy accepted quickly when I put out feelers. Knows Escobar won't help him and struggled more with letting Ortiz go. He likes Juan's potential and needs to move in offensive categories to get over top. Added twist is that Ortiz may be a keeper at his current salary and both Juan and Schoenweis were kept from last year.
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Postby Arlo » Tue Jun 25, 2002 9:47 am

Sounds like a deal that could help both sides. Nice job! ;-D
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