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Postby Liberty30 » Thu May 27, 2004 6:36 pm

DEF wrote:No offense, but if you drafted or traded for Dunn expecting him to NOT hurt your batting average, you were being foolish. Dunn will never be a high average guy. But he is an excellent source of power and even swipes the occasional bag. Unless you're in a VERY small league, a guy with his power numbers should never be dropped outright. Look for someone in need of power and try to get a more balanced hitter with less pop and a better average for him if it bugs you so much. Dropping Dunn because he hurts you in average is like dropping Pierre because he's hurting you in home runs. Or dropping Schilling because he's just killing you in saves. I mean, that guy can't pitch at all if it's almost June and he doesn't have a single save yet. :-D


Amen. Couldn't have said it better. Going into the season as a Dunn owner I hoped for .250-.270 (at most) with a load of dingers and walks (my league counts OPS and BB). He's not on my team as a starter, merely an option for the chance I need power (or he goes on a hot streak)
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Postby edr4225 » Thu May 27, 2004 6:38 pm

i didnt draft adam dunn, i picked him off the WW, hoping for a breakout season but obviously not. i play in a small league and i need players to produce in all parts of the game, not just smack a homer every once in a while. just look at my roster and youll see what i mean

C J. Posada (NYY - C) @Bal 7:05 pm -/- - - - - - - - - -
1B A. Pujols (StL - 1B,LF) 1B Pit W, 6-3 -/- - - - - - - - - -
2B A. Soriano (Tex - 2B) @CWS 8:05 pm -/- - - - - - - - - -
3B A. Ramírez (ChC - 3B) -/- - - - - - - - - -
SS M. Tejada (Bal - SS) NYY 7:05 pm -/- - - - - - - - - -
LF P. Burrell (Phi - LF) Atl 7:05 pm -/- - - - - - - - - -
CF C. Beltrán (KC - CF) CF Det L, 17-7 -/- - - - - - - - - -
RF A. Huff (TB - 1B,3B,RF,DH) RF Min W, 5-4 -/- - - - - - - - - -
OF V. Wells (Tor - CF) Ana 7:05 pm -/- - - - - - - - - -
OF A. Dunn (Cin - 1B,LF) OF Fla L, 5-2 -/- - - - - - - - - -
Util C. Figgins (Ana - CF) @Tor 7:05 pm -/- - - - - - - - - -
Util G. Sheffield (NYY - RF) @Bal 7:05 pm -/- - - - - - - - - -
DL G. AndersonDL (Ana - LF,DH) @Tor 7:05 pm -/- - - - - - - - - -

SP C. Zambrano (ChC - SP) - - - - - - - - -
SP B. Penny (Fla - SP) SP ^@Cin W, 5-2 - - - - - - - - -
SP B. Sheets (Mil - SP) SP ^LA W, 3-1 - - - - - - - - -
RP J. Smoltz (Atl - RP) @Phi 7:05 pm - - - - - - - - -
RP F. Cordero (Tex - RP) @CWS 8:05 pm - - - - - - - - -
P J. Isringhausen (StL - RP) P Pit W, 6-3 - - - - - - - - -
BN J. Schmidt (SF - SP) Ari 10:15 pm - - - - - - - - -
BN J. Lieber (NYY - SP) @Bal 7:05 pm - - - - - - - - -
BN R. Oswalt (Hou - SP) - - - - - - - - -
BN R. Wolf (Phi - SP) Atl 7:05 pm - - - - - - - - -
BN A. BurnettDL (Fla - SP) BN @Cin W, 5-2 - - - - - - - -
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Postby Liberty30 » Thu May 27, 2004 7:13 pm

edr4225 wrote:i didnt draft adam dunn, i picked him off the WW, hoping for a breakout season but obviously not. i play in a small league and i need players to produce in all parts of the game, not just smack a homer every once in a while. just look at my roster and youll see what i mean

C J. Posada (NYY - C) @Bal 7:05 pm -/- - - - - - - - - -
1B A. Pujols (StL - 1B,LF) 1B Pit W, 6-3 -/- - - - - - - - - -
2B A. Soriano (Tex - 2B) @CWS 8:05 pm -/- - - - - - - - - -
3B A. Ramírez (ChC - 3B) -/- - - - - - - - - -
SS M. Tejada (Bal - SS) NYY 7:05 pm -/- - - - - - - - - -
LF P. Burrell (Phi - LF) Atl 7:05 pm -/- - - - - - - - - -
CF C. Beltrán (KC - CF) CF Det L, 17-7 -/- - - - - - - - - -
RF A. Huff (TB - 1B,3B,RF,DH) RF Min W, 5-4 -/- - - - - - - - - -
OF V. Wells (Tor - CF) Ana 7:05 pm -/- - - - - - - - - -
OF A. Dunn (Cin - 1B,LF) OF Fla L, 5-2 -/- - - - - - - - - -
Util C. Figgins (Ana - CF) @Tor 7:05 pm -/- - - - - - - - - -
Util G. Sheffield (NYY - RF) @Bal 7:05 pm -/- - - - - - - - - -
DL G. AndersonDL (Ana - LF,DH) @Tor 7:05 pm -/- - - - - - - - - -

SP C. Zambrano (ChC - SP) - - - - - - - - -
SP B. Penny (Fla - SP) SP ^@Cin W, 5-2 - - - - - - - - -
SP B. Sheets (Mil - SP) SP ^LA W, 3-1 - - - - - - - - -
RP J. Smoltz (Atl - RP) @Phi 7:05 pm - - - - - - - - -
RP F. Cordero (Tex - RP) @CWS 8:05 pm - - - - - - - - -
P J. Isringhausen (StL - RP) P Pit W, 6-3 - - - - - - - - -
BN J. Schmidt (SF - SP) Ari 10:15 pm - - - - - - - - -
BN J. Lieber (NYY - SP) @Bal 7:05 pm - - - - - - - - -
BN R. Oswalt (Hou - SP) - - - - - - - - -
BN R. Wolf (Phi - SP) Atl 7:05 pm - - - - - - - - -
BN A. BurnettDL (Fla - SP) BN @Cin W, 5-2 - - - - - - - -


Dang... What is it... a 3 person league? Wish that were my team.
;-D But that doesn't change the fact that he CAN hit MLB hitting.
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Postby edr4225 » Thu May 27, 2004 7:48 pm

its a 6th person league and im not saying that dunn cant hit major pitching at all, he can hit but hes just not a fantasy hitter. of course he can hit major league hitting but not consistently, and fantasy is all about getting consistency from your players. batting 300 shows me that you are a consistent hitter and dunn just cant do it yet.
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Postby Madison » Fri May 28, 2004 12:40 am

Liberty30 wrote:that doesn't change the fact that he CAN hit MLB hitting.


He can? 8-o

When is he going to start doing it?

I put this in another thread, but it fits here too. We are discussing a player who has never hit over .262 in a season and sports a .249 career average.

That's being able to hit? Certainly does not qualify as hitting in my book. One hot month does not constitute being able to hit over the course of the season.
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Postby kcs261 » Fri May 28, 2004 1:14 am

Dunn is NOT on my team, and perhaps the forum thread title was an overstatement, however, I also believe that Adam Dunn is one of the most over-rated players in fantasy ball. Even if we want to talk power, the guy hit 27 HRs last year and 26 the year before.

I'm sorry, but when you look at his .249 average in 02, and his .215 average in 03, Dunn's production doesn't warrant the hype.

If the guy was hitting 40-50 HRs a year, maybe you deal with his low batting average. But when he's in the 20s, cut bait on him. It's not like this guy is a rookie, either. This is his third full season in the majors, and he is showing no signs of upping that average.

Finally, the guy is a K machine. While that not be a yahoo category that directly hurts your team, to me, it's a sign of a streaky hitter.

Dunn is nothing special. Don't buy all the hype. :-t
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Postby wkelly91 » Fri May 28, 2004 6:17 am

I don't know if I could stand having a guy with his numbers on my team:

on pace:

ave-.260
Runs-120
Hr-40
Rbi-100

Boy does he suck ;-7
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Postby edr4225 » Fri May 28, 2004 7:50 am

He may be on pace for those numbers, but i can almost guarrantee, in fact i do guarantee that he doesnt get those numbers this year. maybe one year he will get those numbers, but it wont be this year.
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Postby kcs261 » Fri May 28, 2004 8:58 am

wkelly91 wrote:I don't know if I could stand having a guy with his numbers on my team:

on pace:

ave-.260
Runs-120
Hr-40
Rbi-100

Boy does he suck ;-7


Like I said, the guy is streaky, bro. He'll have a good month, and then totally tank it.

That's what guy who K do: They get real hot. Then, they get real cold.

In other words, you can't multiply early season numbers into end of the year totals.
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Postby wkelly91 » Fri May 28, 2004 9:02 am

So I guess you can't bet on Soriano hitting 35-40 Hr, .290-.300, 30-40 sb? You know he strikes out a lot ;-7
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