Targeting the Chipper - Fantasy Baseball Cafe 2014 Fantasy Baseball Cafe
100% Deposit Bonus for Cafe Members!

Return to Baseball Leftovers

Targeting the Chipper

Moderator: Baseball Moderators

Postby Arlo » Fri Jun 28, 2002 5:30 am

Well, I'd like to start giving him credit as a fantasy option, but I'm afraid I'm still not sold, especially with his elbow inflammation still not entirely out of the way... It's a great success story, though - I'm definitely enjoying that part.
Arlo
Hall of Fame Hero
Hall of Fame Hero

User avatar
Fantasy ExpertCafe WriterCafe RankerPick 3 Weekly WinnerSweet 16 SurvivorLucky Ladders Weekly Winner
Posts: 8847
Joined: 4 Jan 2002
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: The Cheap Seats

Postby Guest » Fri Jun 28, 2002 10:04 am

Latest Editorial News from CBS.SPORTSLINE.COM:

Ohka, despite his 4-2 record and 2.34 ERA in his past nine starts, probably isn't on the verge of a breakout year. He was never considered staff-ace material when rising the ranks of the minor leagues, and has lasted more than seven innings just once this season (7 2/3 frames May 16). That puts Ohka's durability in question, and the fact that he doesn't get many strikeouts and won't win many games on the Expos doesn't help matters. He's really only a specialist in the ERA and WHIP categories, and not as good as his current stats.

Do you think he's better than the other pitchers on FA
Guest


Home Cafe: Football
Friendliness: %

Postby Arlo » Fri Jun 28, 2002 11:26 am

No matter what you think of Ohka (personally I think that while he won't miraculously become a top-tier pitcher, he'll put up very respectable numbers), that editorial seems a bit slanted. Saying that his durability is in question because he has only gone over seven innings once this season is, with all respect to sportsline, pure nonsense. For one thing, it's wrong: he also went 7 1/3 in April to get his 3rd win. For another, it could also be pointed out that he's gone 7 or more in 8 of the last 9 games. So much for that argument.

Usually, you can expect better from sportsline... (Oh well - everyone misses one now and then. They're still a great source).

The point about Ohka's low k totals is legitimate, but if Montreal is serious about making a run at the playoffs and trading for additional upgrades, the wins should come.

Anyway, I think Fogg, Ohka and Lopez have fairly equal chances to succeed over the rest of the season. That's also the order in which I'd take them, but that's based more on a hunch than anything else. They're all very nice free agent finds.
Arlo
Hall of Fame Hero
Hall of Fame Hero

User avatar
Fantasy ExpertCafe WriterCafe RankerPick 3 Weekly WinnerSweet 16 SurvivorLucky Ladders Weekly Winner
Posts: 8847
Joined: 4 Jan 2002
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: The Cheap Seats

Postby Guest » Fri Jun 28, 2002 11:55 am

I'll have to wait until my trade is approved by the league to decide which pitcher to take.

On another note, there was a trade proposal in my league that had:

David Wells for Johnny Damon

I opposed it and hopefully other will too so the trade won't go through. The trade is between a last place team (Johnny Damon) and a 4th place team (David Wells) I don't think it's fair, but we''ll see what everyone thinks.
Guest


Home Cafe: Football
Friendliness: %

Postby tallmike » Fri Jun 28, 2002 12:28 pm

I'd have to agree that on the face of it this isn't fair. damon has considerably higher value in almost any format.

That said, there is always the salary trade in keeper leagues. Its early to be doing this but is this a keeper league and what are the salaries involved?

Too bad that these things happen but sometimes rookies take a while to learn too.
tallmike
Moderator
Moderator

User avatar
Mock(ing) Drafter
Posts: 343
Joined: 21 Jun 2002
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: the frozen north

Postby Guest » Fri Jun 28, 2002 12:32 pm

No keeper league and no salaries league. Just a one season, 10 team 4x4 league.
Guest


Home Cafe: Football
Friendliness: %

Postby dannahann » Fri Jun 28, 2002 1:28 pm

Something else on the Ohka side that might help your decision:

I'd think the adddition of Colon moves Ohka to at least #4 in the rotatation, (I'm not sure if it's even #5...gotta be Ohka or Yoshii there). With the teams getting to reset their rotations at the allstar break, Ohka should oppose his share of stiffs throughout July at least . Hopefully translating to more wins as well.

As for the Damon trade, it does seem unfair but maybe the guy getting Wells is in a situation that he feels the pitching helps him more? I don't like the deal and hope it isn't collusion, but I've seen worse ones go through.
dannahann
Major League Manager
Major League Manager

User avatar
Cafe Ranker
Posts: 1991
(Past Year: 65)
Joined: 26 Jun 2002
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: Missouri

Postby Guest » Fri Jun 28, 2002 2:10 pm

Well, people seem to agree with us on the Damon trade as there has been 3 rejections. It's up to the Commissioner. So you would go with Ohka?
Guest


Home Cafe: Football
Friendliness: %

Postby Arlo » Fri Jun 28, 2002 2:58 pm

I don't really think I'd veto that deal. Yes, Damon has a higher "objective" value, but if both sides are filling needs, it could work out nicely.

Of course, I'm usually very reluctant to veto trades unless there is collusion (or other underhanded tactics) involved. If your league has other guidelines, then it may well be rejected by the commish.
Arlo
Hall of Fame Hero
Hall of Fame Hero

User avatar
Fantasy ExpertCafe WriterCafe RankerPick 3 Weekly WinnerSweet 16 SurvivorLucky Ladders Weekly Winner
Posts: 8847
Joined: 4 Jan 2002
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: The Cheap Seats

Postby Guest » Mon Jul 01, 2002 2:26 pm

Well, the Damon -- Wells trade went through. Also, my trade for Berkman went through. I had to give up Glavine, but I think Berkman will help my offense.

I picked up Ohka, but was wondering if Jeff Weaver maybe a better option. I guess if he gets traded, he might be more valueable. Let me know what you think?
Guest


Home Cafe: Football
Friendliness: %

PreviousNext

Return to Baseball Leftovers

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: buiviopaufamp and 7 guests

cron
Forums Articles & Tips Sleepers Rankings Leagues


Today's Games
Saturday, Aug. 2
(All times are EST, weather icons show forecast for game time)

NY Yankees at Boston
(4:05 pm)
Kansas City at Oakland
(4:05 pm)
Seattle at Baltimore
(7:05 pm)
Texas at Cleveland
(7:05 pm)
Philadelphia at Washington
(7:05 pm)
Colorado at Detroit
(7:08 pm)
LA Angels at Tampa Bay
(7:10 pm)
indoors
San Francisco at NY Mets
(7:10 pm)
Cincinnati at Miami
(7:10 pm)
indoors
Toronto at Houston
(7:10 pm)
Minnesota at Chi White Sox
(7:10 pm)
Milwaukee at St. Louis
(7:15 pm)
Pittsburgh at Arizona
(8:10 pm)
Atlanta at San Diego
(8:40 pm)
Chi Cubs at LA Dodgers
(9:10 pm)

  • Fantasy Baseball
  • Article Submissions
  • Privacy Statement
  • Site Survey 
  • Contact