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Postby patriot79 » Tue May 25, 2004 11:58 am

Manny for AL MVP!!! He has huge numbers every year but I think this year is going to be even bigger. Manny has Triple Crown potental.
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Postby jbones733 » Tue May 25, 2004 12:05 pm

trac02 wrote:On crack? Well, look at the numbers so far:

Pudge: .337, 7HR, 33 RBI, 3 SB
Vlad: .346, 11HR, 36 RBI, 1 SB

Pretty close, no?

Pudge is the best defensive catcher in the league and has turned the Tigers from a laughingstock into a mediocre team. (And has stolen more bases, at that.) I think Vlad wins at the end of the season but come on, man, it's not that ridiculous if you look at the numbers.


You forgot 1 Key statistic

Detroit 21-22

Anaheim 29-16 (best record in baseball)

& thats what wins mvp my friend, unless a guy puts up Extraodinary #'s (like arod last year) it very rarely gos to a team that doesent win their division. Its very sweet that Detroit wont lose 130 games this year but still under .500

& I seen Vlad save at least 1 Game bu gunniing a guy out @ home (rat poasda) so dont sell his Arm short either
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Postby Jack-In-A-Box » Tue May 25, 2004 12:18 pm

trac02 wrote:On crack? Well, look at the numbers so far:

Pudge: .337, 7HR, 33 RBI, 3 SB
Vlad: .346, 11HR, 36 RBI, 1 SB

Pretty close, no?

Pudge is the best defensive catcher in the league and has turned the Tigers from a laughingstock into a mediocre team. (And has stolen more bases, at that.) I think Vlad wins at the end of the season but come on, man, it's not that ridiculous if you look at the numbers.


Agreed. That is why so far I've gone with Pudge to this point. He's done more for the Tigers than Vlad has done for the Angels. Not only has he put up great numbers so far.. he's had to handle a staff that ranked among the worst last year. You can't just go into Tiger town thinking you're gonna win this year.. mostly in part due to Pudge and his influence over that whole team.
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Postby LBJackal » Tue May 25, 2004 12:27 pm

AL

MVP: Vladdy
CY: Mark Mulder

NL

MVP: Lowell (better than Rolen this year, better than Rolen last year in 30 less games. Why is he always over-looked?)
CY: Randy Johnson/Jason Schmidt

As for the Danny Graves for MVP post: ahhahahahhahahahahaa
He's not even close to MVP calibre. Gagne had the best relief season of all time last year, while Graves is barely top 10 for this year alone.
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Postby Rude Boy » Tue May 25, 2004 12:29 pm

AL: MVP Manny

NL: Griffey (about to catch fire)


AL: Cy young Hudson

NL: B. Lawrence
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Postby Rude Boy » Tue May 25, 2004 12:29 pm

AL: MVP Manny

NL: Griffey (about to catch fire)


AL: Cy young Hudson

NL: B. Lawrence
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Postby trac02 » Tue May 25, 2004 12:38 pm

jbones733 wrote:
trac02 wrote:On crack? Well, look at the numbers so far:

Pudge: .337, 7HR, 33 RBI, 3 SB
Vlad: .346, 11HR, 36 RBI, 1 SB

Pretty close, no?

Pudge is the best defensive catcher in the league and has turned the Tigers from a laughingstock into a mediocre team. (And has stolen more bases, at that.) I think Vlad wins at the end of the season but come on, man, it's not that ridiculous if you look at the numbers.


You forgot 1 Key statistic

Detroit 21-22

Anaheim 29-16 (best record in baseball)

& thats what wins mvp my friend, unless a guy puts up Extraodinary #'s (like arod last year) it very rarely gos to a team that doesent win their division. Its very sweet that Detroit wont lose 130 games this year but still under .500

& I seen Vlad save at least 1 Game bu gunniing a guy out @ home (rat poasda) so dont sell his Arm short either


You must be thinking about a different thread. This is about who the MVP is thus far this season. If you look at my post you will see that I think Vlad will win by the end of the year, but last I checked they hadn't handed out the pennants yet.
Though it is 'very sweet' to see you try to argue your choice with statistics instead of accusing everybody of hard drug use and laughing at superstar catchers who have previously won MVPs (unlike Vlad who has won bupkus).
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Postby trac02 » Tue May 25, 2004 12:39 pm

Rude Boy wrote:AL: MVP Manny

NL: Griffey (about to catch fire)


AL: Cy young Hudson

NL: B. Lawrence


Wow. What's the case for Lawrence? He's won 6 games but the rest of his numbers are mediocre at best. (1.71 whip?!?!?!)
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Postby djacks » Tue May 25, 2004 12:43 pm

Rude Boy wrote:AL: MVP Manny

NL: Griffey (about to catch fire)


AL: Cy young Hudson

NL: B. Lawrence


Griffey is a huge stretch as well...not as much as Lawrence...but still a stretch...
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Postby slomo007 » Tue May 25, 2004 12:44 pm

Griffey will win comeback player of the year no doubt if he keeps this up. Then again, if the Reds keep doing so well, MVP isn't out of the question.
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