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Postby unclepaulie » Sat May 22, 2004 11:10 am

You guys need to tighten up and stop all the Graves hating. The guy has been LIGHTS out.
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Postby sinicalypse » Sat May 22, 2004 1:14 pm

whose arm is going to fall off first? carlos zambrano or danny graves.

my vote is still for zambrano
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Postby flowbee » Sat May 22, 2004 2:32 pm

Graves used to be a starting pitcher. He throws the weak sauce pitches his arm wont fall off. I might shop him when he hits 30 saves next month though in case they trade him to devil rays or something
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Postby BronsonPinchot » Sat May 22, 2004 2:39 pm

There is no reason to trade a player just because he has had a hot start. Its simple. Graves has been killing it and is extremely likely to lead the NL in saves. That means he's good. Other players who have had hot starts, like Albert Pujols in his rookie year, were also good. If you need saves, keep him. If you don't, and other owners in your league who do aren't interested in acquiring Graves, understand that they are not 'educated', they are fools.
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Postby warrick95 » Sat May 22, 2004 3:25 pm

The reason to deal Graves is because due to the hot start, it is very likely that the Reds will be able to find a buyer for his huge contract.
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Postby BronsonPinchot » Sat May 22, 2004 4:08 pm

Why not use logic or think before typing something? No team is going to take on Graves's contract to have him set up (except perhaps the Yanks, but they have a pimp setup man). No team that doesnt win games and generate save opportunities and need a closer is going to take on his contract. The fact that Graves may be playing for another team is comically irrelevant. He's having a great season and the only reason you should deal him is if you are already set in the save category. Obviously can't expect the Reds to keep generating save opps at this pace, but that doesnt mean Graves isn't going to be the best closer in baseball this year.
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Postby afromangettindrunk » Sat May 22, 2004 5:01 pm

personally, i like players that lead the league in whatever they do. in graves case, saves. with one of my h2h leagues, i have won in saves every single week with graves. (and nathan ;-) ). im quite impressed with this guy and i have no desire to trade him off. i understand that if you need help in other categories trading would make sense, but im holding on to this guy for now.
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Postby Members Only Jackets » Sat May 22, 2004 5:32 pm

if graves got his 5oth save in August, someone would say..."Sell high! I don't see this lasting all year."
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Postby NZF » Sat May 22, 2004 6:47 pm

BronsonPinchot wrote: Its simple. Graves has been killing it and is extremely likely to lead the NL in saves. That means he's good.


No it means he is getting a truck load of save opportunities and usually with a 3 run cushion to boot.

That could dry up real soon. Look to trade him now.
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Postby NZF » Sat May 22, 2004 10:28 pm

Pitching for the 4th day in a row.

Big mistake :-t


He got out of it with yet another save but he shouldn't have. There was some awful swinging going on there by the bottom of the Astros order. They never made the guy work at all.
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