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Postby daveblotto » Thu May 20, 2004 8:59 pm

Thoughts on him from here on out? He's a FA, and I need help. thanks-DBA
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Postby trac02 » Thu May 20, 2004 9:06 pm

At first glance Horacio's numbers look pretty good, but his walk rate and WHIP are absolutely frightening. He found a way to win last year when the Braves offense was a strength; with his lack of control and run support this year tonight's well-pitched game might represent the high point of the season for him. My guess is the walks will catch up to him and it'll be downhill from here.
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Postby daveblotto » Thu May 20, 2004 9:11 pm

thanks. I'm looking at that now, and I see what you're saying. I'm last in WHIP now and Don't need anyone else making it worse!
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Postby Krunk City King$ » Thu May 20, 2004 9:14 pm

has never allowed more than 7 hits....

has only allowed more than 6 hits (7) in one game....

has not given up more than 3 runs in each outing this season...

has never walked over 4 batters in an outing this season....

he has pitched 14 consecutive shutout innings...

he is a successful tommy john returnee....

he throws hard, but he just does not get run support.....(which he got last season)

not a big strikeout guy, but can help your era and possibly whip and get wins if the bravos hit...

i like him and would have added him to my staff but he is currently on a roster....

his name does not have a "sexy ring" to it so most people do not know who he is....allowing him to fly under the radar...

he is decent....

just my .02 and mho....
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Postby Pedro » Thu May 20, 2004 10:03 pm

trac02 wrote:At first glance Horacio's numbers look pretty good, but his walk rate and WHIP are absolutely frightening. He found a way to win last year when the Braves offense was a strength; with his lack of control and run support this year tonight's well-pitched game might represent the high point of the season for him. My guess is the walks will catch up to him and it'll be downhill from here.


Bullcrap.

He has 7 quality starts, including a CG tonight. I believe he now has a 1.24 WHIP and 27 BB on the year. Not to mention a 2.06 ERA.

He should be 7-1.
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Postby BigLebowski » Thu May 20, 2004 11:17 pm

His WHIP and walks were very poor last season, but if you watched him pitch he just needed to learn a little. This year he seems to have learned something and is pitching better just not getting the wins due to the poor offense in the A.T.L.

When Chipper and Furcal are back healthy I think the run support will increase, but it won't come close to last years numbers.

Most people are saying he is a sell-high candidate, and they expect his WHIP and Walks to be where they were last year. I don't see it. I think he has learned something and will be a 3.30 ERA 1.25 WHIP guy who will get 12-14 Wins

Not bad for a guy most can get off the free agent list.
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Postby Silver Slugger » Thu May 20, 2004 11:58 pm

his WHIP won't be great, and his wins may be few and far between. his ERA also will probably go up as his WHIP catches up to him...but I still think he's way better than anything else you are likely to pluck off the ww this late. let us not forget how great a teach mezzone (sp?) really is. i think he's a solid starter.
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Postby mikey » Sun May 23, 2004 12:37 pm

Would anyone drop anyone from my roster to pick up H. Ramirez?

I'm kinda fed up with Nevin, but recognize that he's valuable and that I probably shouldn't just flat out waive him (just frustrated I guess). I've been toying with the idea of picking Feliz up with this spot, but could be persuaded to pick up H-Ram instead.

I picked up Affeldt last night before his blown save only because I heard he got the closer job in KC. He's certainly expendable since I've got a lot of closers and KC has only managed a handful of save ops on the season anyway.

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1B D. Lee
2B J. Uribe
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UT P. Nevin, M. Bradley, J. Dye
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RP E. Gagne, K. Foulke, F. Cordero, J. Valverde, J. Affeldt
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Postby BigLebowski » Sun May 23, 2004 1:07 pm

I don't play H2H but do you really need that many closers? I'd dump Affeldt and pick up Ramirez.
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Postby mikey » Sun May 23, 2004 1:15 pm

BigLebowski wrote:I don't play H2H but do you really need that many closers? I'd dump Affeldt and pick up Ramirez.


Yeah, I know I overdid it on the closers, but I figured Affeldt has some value (just not so much for my team), so I picked him up yesterday.

Thanks for the advice. That's probably the way I'm leaning.
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