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Postby Jer19G » Tue May 18, 2004 4:45 pm

Well for those of you who dropped Tex you could be very sorry very soon. ;-) Although Huff is worth picking up for him.
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Postby CubsFan7724 » Tue May 18, 2004 4:49 pm

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leafz17 wrote:I'm guessing this is not a Yahoo league because it has a little something called...Can't Cut List. This is designated so people don't cut players like Delgado. Even if your league doesn't have a Can't Cut List, I would suggest NEVER dropping anyone that is on the "CCL" in Yahoo leagues.


I don't use it in my Yahoo league. I don't like anyone telling me who I can or can't cut. For instance, say Prior was out for the year. Assuming that I have 1 DL slot in a non-keeper, I would much rather use it for someone who can help me later.

Yahoo changes the cant cut list throughout the season. So if Prior was out for the season, they would take him off it. You need the Cant Cut list if you play in a league with idiots who drop Delgado.
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Postby Amazinz » Tue May 18, 2004 4:51 pm

They are a necessary evil in public leagues but I don't use them in my private leagues, either. In private leagues they are more of an annoyance than anything.
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Postby matmat » Tue May 18, 2004 5:37 pm

Amazinz wrote:They are a necessary evil in public leagues but I don't use them in my private leagues, either. In private leagues they are more of an annoyance than anything.


The point of a can't cut list is not to prevent some silly person from dumping delgado. it is to prevent some idiot from dumping their entire roster and ruining the league. Last year two people in one of my public leagues dropped all their players within the first month of the season. The firt person did so right after the draft, saying "I was using this for a mock draft" and the second was in last and just bailed. Consequently some people in the league got an additional 2-3 studs (1 to 3rd rounders). That was ridiculous. that is what the can't cut list is supposed to prevent

in an ideal world it wouldn't be necessery... but unfortunately there are a lot of sinister/obnoxious people out there.
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Postby rolenfan » Tue May 18, 2004 5:48 pm

Man, you guys are tough.

It's a 12 team H2H league. The guy ended up with Delgado, Palmiero and Casey after about three weeks into the season. He tried like crazy to trade one of them, but nobody would bite. He dropped Delgado because at the time he was hitting like .225 or something. He dropped him to make room for Alvarez.

Stupid? Maybe, but it's his team and he can make his own decisions. Delgado was grabbed up immediately.

We don't use the CC list for the same reason Lofunzo said. I don't want anyone telling me who I can drop.

You guys are all entitled to your opinions, but so is everyone else. If the guy thought for whatever reason that Delgado was going to have a bad year, then that's his call.

I saw Delgado on the FA list but didn't want him either. Crazy? Maybe, but I just doon't think he will help me.

It's a H2H league, so some of these guys are only looking to next week to see if they can win their matchup. They guy is in 5th place (of 12), 3.5 GB of the lead. He isn't doing too bad. You guys make it sound like he just punted the whole season on that one move. You'll feel pretty silly if Delgado ends up with .240-15-60, which is possible, if unlikely.
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Postby Bloody Nipples » Tue May 18, 2004 5:54 pm

Why would you ever drop Delgado? Even if you think he will have a bad year, somebody will think he will turn it around. Maybe you wont get full value for him, but you will get a player a hell of lot better than anyone on FA. Dropping a first of second rounder is just plain stupid
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Postby Strasil42 » Tue May 18, 2004 5:55 pm

.240-15-60


the only way that will happen is if delgado breaks both his legs. Those numbers are idiotic and if you passed delgado up on the fa list your a idiot.
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Postby rolenfan » Tue May 18, 2004 6:27 pm

An idiot, huh? Tell me then, who is the best 1B in both leagues? You can't, there is no "right" answer to that question. It depends on what you need and what you believe a player's potential is for your specific situation. Maybe it's Pujols, maybe it's Helton, maybe it's Delgado - maybe it's Huff.

You guys are way too critical.

I'm not defending his decision to drop Delgado, I sure wouldn't have done it, but I will defend his right to make his own decisions based on his own free will and thought process.

I guess you guys go undefeated in your H2H leagues.

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Postby Lofunzo » Tue May 18, 2004 7:05 pm

CubsFan7724 wrote:
Lofunzo wrote:
leafz17 wrote:I'm guessing this is not a Yahoo league because it has a little something called...Can't Cut List. This is designated so people don't cut players like Delgado. Even if your league doesn't have a Can't Cut List, I would suggest NEVER dropping anyone that is on the "CCL" in Yahoo leagues.


I don't use it in my Yahoo league. I don't like anyone telling me who I can or can't cut. For instance, say Prior was out for the year. Assuming that I have 1 DL slot in a non-keeper, I would much rather use it for someone who can help me later.

Yahoo changes the cant cut list throughout the season. So if Prior was out for the season, they would take him off it. You need the Cant Cut list if you play in a league with idiots who drop Delgado.


I understand that but, at least in football, it took them forever to update it. If I'm playing for more than $1K, I can't wait for some data entry person to tell me who I can or can't drop.
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Postby Strasil42 » Wed May 19, 2004 12:10 am

Tell me then, who is the best 1B in both leagues?


thats easy. Albert pujols.
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