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Postby agchris02 » Sat May 15, 2004 8:14 pm

Ok, here's the deal, and we cant figure out how to stop it in our league:

Our league is a H2H weekly matchup league, lineups due by monday at 10am for the coming week. Our waiver wire also utilizes a waiver priority order, and anyone who is waived is put on wiavers for 3 days to allow eveyrone equal access to the freshly waived players. We start six pitchers, so many of us (me included), normally try to pick up a average two start pitcher to flesh out our pitching lineups for the week. The guy in our league who drafted five pitchers with his first five picks (awsome pitching, fielding sucks), kept losing to people who did this, so came up with a strategy. At 10:01 am on friday, he goes through and picks up, then immediately drops every pitcher that is available thats scheduled to have two starts that week, one at a time. They are then stuck on the waiver wire till 10:01 monday morning --- to late to pick them up and use them. THe only way around this is to pick up a player on wed or thurs, but rotations are often fluid, and that doestn work. What can we do? (Other than take the jackass out in the field and beat him). We dont want to limit add drops, or charge for them, that's just stupid.
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Postby agchris02 » Sat May 15, 2004 8:15 pm

If some of that isnt clear, just ask and Ill see if I can clarify our problem.
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Postby john gardner » Sat May 15, 2004 8:17 pm

All's fair in love and war and ball....
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Postby matmat » Sat May 15, 2004 8:20 pm

that actually is an illegal strategy

this needs to be pointed out.

a manager is supposed to use moves to improve his team, not to inhibit the improvement of other teams.
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Postby EK711 » Sat May 15, 2004 8:22 pm

If it's a public yahoo league it's not within the scope of the rules. I believe that Bleach was the first to point this out that I can recall.

From the Yahoo Rules:

Even though fantasy games are meant to be a competitive experience for all involved, it is important to us that our users not lose sight of the rules of fair play and good sportsmanship.
To this end, each Public League fantasy team owner (Private Leagues are controlled solely by the league commissioner) agrees that, by joining the game, they will abide by the following regulations:


1. All league-related transactions will be executed with the intent of improving the owner's team and/or its standing within the league.
2. No owner may drop or dump players from their team for any reason other than improving their own team and/or its standing within the league.

3. No owner will engage in any action that may be deemed to be collusive (two or more owners agreeing to make moves that benefit one team, but not the other).
4. No owner will make any roster moves (including waiver claims, trade proposals, etc.) whose sole purpose is to hamper the play of other owners.
5. No owner will take any action whose purpose is to, in any way, interfere with fair play in a league.
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Postby agchris02 » Sat May 15, 2004 8:24 pm

its a cbs sportsline league.......is there anything that could be done just to prevent it that any commish's out there know of?
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Postby matmat » Sat May 15, 2004 8:30 pm

General Sportsmanship
By participating, you agree to abide by the general sportsmanship rules set forth in these rules and fantasy games in general. You further agree to accept and abide by the rulings and the decisions of CBS SportsLine.com regarding all questions of sportsmanship. If an owner does not comply with the following sportsmanship rules, or CBS SportsLine.com determines (in CBS SportsLine.com's sole discretion) that an owner has acted in an unsportsmanlike manner, CBS SportsLine.com reserves the right to disqualify the owner. Before doing so, CBS SportsLine.com will contact the owner for an explanation. CBS SportsLine.com will evaluate the explanation and decide, in its sole discretion, whether or not to disqualify the owner(s) in question. All decisions by CBS SportsLine.com in sportsmanship and related matters will be final.


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seems to me you need to contact CBS sportsline and explain the situation and then wait for their verdict. ;-D
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Postby JamesBond007 » Sat May 15, 2004 8:33 pm

Sounds to me like the guy is pretty smart. you gotta use the system to your advantage. Last time i checked , winning was the name of the game. Sounds like sour grapes coming from the rest of the league.....


And before you say he's breaking the "rules" , consider that by making these adds/drops he actually is improving his team's standing in the league---he's giving it a better chance at winning.
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Postby agchris02 » Sat May 15, 2004 8:35 pm

To Bond:

That's his arguement too, but hes not doing anything to improve his team, nor is he being ethical (I see nothing wrong if he kept these players), all he's doing is mauling the waiver system. And I know its a dumb analogy, but you dont see this thing on waivers in the major league----think of how much money teams would lose. Anyways, we just turned him into cbs, we'll see what they have to say.


(I like the name waiver mongering :-) )
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Postby matmat » Sat May 15, 2004 8:36 pm

JamesBond007 wrote:
And before you say he's breaking the "rules" , consider that by making these adds/drops he actually is improving his team's standing in the league---he's giving it a better chance at winning.



that's BS. the main purpose of his moves is to prevent others from being able to pick up players. the players he touches have no direct impact on his stats. That is unethical, unsportsmanlike and most likely will be ruled illegal by cbssportsline.
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