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Postby matmat » Wed May 12, 2004 4:21 pm

hey! give the hitters some credit ... maybe they figured out how to read a pitchers blinking pattern... or maybe they can see the big toe wiggle in the cleats... who knows...
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Postby benjapage » Wed May 12, 2004 4:31 pm

folks, it may be trendy, but that stuff is true and happens all the time. at the end of 2002, there was a period when isringhausen was getting blasted every time he threw a pitch. a good friend of mine works in the cardinals office, and knows izzy. izzy says there was some subtle head movement he was making that tipped off everyone. even after informed, he said it was difficult to change because the movement was so ingrained into his stretch motion. finally, he did get it straightened out, and proceeded to rock it.

i think tipped pitches may seem like the trendy excuse, but a) it's probably (like everything else) just getting more publicity. and b)that stuff's been going on forever, and players/coaches keep getting better at identifying a pitcher's trademark idiosyncracies.


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Postby trippinonreality » Wed May 12, 2004 5:24 pm

you forgot to put Zito on your list
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Postby KULCAT » Wed May 12, 2004 5:27 pm

d18Mike wrote:
that's the big thing this year, tipping your pitches

You hit the nail on the head, man. It's the excuse du jour. You hear this almost every time a pitcher is getting raked.

This is at least the 7th time I've heard this excuse this year: Weaver, Harden, Bonderman, Contreras, Piniero even Maddux .. MADDUX. There are likely scores of others.

It's trendy. I don't buy it. If it were that simple all of these guys would have found their Mojo by now. Except Maddux, none really have.

When fantasy experts are calling it means it just got out of hand
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Postby jbones733 » Wed May 12, 2004 5:44 pm

now while i don't hold Ron Gardenhire & his staff in the highest of praises, i find it hard to believe that Fantasy experts & announcers can figure this out before a major league team's coaching staff can *& still dont know about it)
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