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Postby Dice » Tue May 11, 2004 7:05 am

I called this situation back when Kim was rehabbing. He had three minor league starts, and the decreased velocity was reported. Meanwhile Arroyo had shown enough to be a viable option, holding it together when things go wrong. Now Arroyo gets a chance, but not a guarantee. I wouldn't be suprised to see Kim re-inserted later on if Arroyo struggles and Kim recovers.

If you have either, hold em. If you can only have one... Arroyo I guess. If there's something tasty on the waiver wire, I might waive either of them.

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Postby thetongueofire » Tue May 11, 2004 8:07 am

id stay patient with Kim.. yesterday the Indians basically put out an all lefty linup and Kim's def not good against lefties. and the velocity will return, just remember that Kim's coming straight off an injury and that always takes some time with any pitcher.
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Postby Eli » Tue May 11, 2004 8:40 am

So, At this point do we see Kim as a good "Holds" guy? Is he going to be put in the setup role?
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Postby thetongueofire » Tue May 11, 2004 8:47 am

i dunno... the Sox dont follow a particular pattern with their setup guys like other teams do... its mostly matchups and availability. i wouldnt do that quite yet cos i think most of the holds would still go to either Williamson or Embree. Kim should also be back in the rotation by the end of the year. Arroyo has pretty much the same endurance problems as Kim and many scouts think that hed also be more valuable in the bullpen.
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Postby prodpaul » Tue May 11, 2004 8:49 am

Just dumped him.... <img src=/forums/images/smiles/kiss.gif>
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Postby Transmogrifier » Tue May 11, 2004 9:11 am

Wow. I'm disappointed in my Sox. May is the time you let Kim figure it out. He comes back from the DL and has two bad starts and they toss him out the window.

He's a very good pitcher, but needs some time. Jeez.
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Postby Dice » Tue May 11, 2004 11:24 am

I agree that May is the time, Transmo, but Pawtucket might be the place to see if Kim can get his fastball back.

The Sox need to win right now as well as get Kim's game back. Pawtucket actually makes the most sense to me, since Arroyo can pitch as well as Kim has and there are certainly enough bullpen arms in play to do without Kim on the big club.
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Postby thetongueofire » Tue May 11, 2004 2:52 pm

i prolly dont want the Sox to rush any of the guys... all that matters is that they're healthy come September (and October :-D). i dunno if it actually would but if going back to the minors helps Kim more than staying up, so be it i guess. the sames prolly also true for Contreras. i expect Kim to back up soon as the 5th starter... its just a period of recovering from injury and getting his groove back.
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Postby d18Mike » Tue May 11, 2004 4:39 pm

Wow. I'm disappointed in my Sox. May is the time you let Kim figure it out. He comes back from the DL and has two bad starts and they toss him out the window.

He's a very good pitcher, but needs some time. Jeez.


My feelings exactly ... I had Kim and am glad they've pulled the plug on him as a starter for the time being, but I think it's a terrible disservice to the guy to send him to the minors to work it out; and probably counterproductive.

He was terrific in his rehab stinits. He needs to throw to ML players -- not AA and AAA. A bad decision on just about every front.

If two consecutive poor starts were the criteria for sending an established player down, there wouldn't be a pitcher left in Kansas City.
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Postby matmat » Tue May 11, 2004 4:52 pm

i think boston just needs to get steve sparks and then they can go with a 3 man bullpen... sparks, wakefield and mccarty...


seriously though. Boston just dealt Kim two terrible blows. I don't know too much about asian culture, but from what I do know being relegated to a reliever is a huge step down in status for an asian pitcher and being sent down to the minors, I would guess, is another. Doing this they probably not only shattered his confidence but also made him lose face. I don't really see him coming back to boston, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets traded.
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