I don't take them seriously, I just reject it. If it's really really really bad, I usually offer my worst player for his best player, just to give him an idea of what I thought . Don't take things so seriously, your life will be much happier.
It could be that he hopes that you're an idiot or it could be that he just wants to get talks started. Some people also won't deal unless they are convinced that they rip you off. Personally, if I get a terrible offer, I don't even counter. If it's close, then I will.
I agree with sentiments mentioned earlier: don't take it too seriously, and for kicks sometimes I do the worst/best player trade to get the message across (especially if they've tried repeatedly).
What I always do, though, is add a note saying why the trade wouldn't work. I hate straight up rejections when I honestly think the trade is fair. If you think it's not fair, say why. If you don't want to move a certain player, just mention it so you won't be bugged about them again. It just deters some of the mystery involved.
But of course, you don't have to. Maybe you like being mysterious...
Maybe my take is slanted because I play in private keeper leagues, but responding in kind just to show you were pissed pretty much 'locks' a potential trade door. I normally try to strike up a constructive dialouge where we honestly assess our needs and often end up will a beneficial deal out of the process. If not immediately, then almost certainly down the road when that guy actually needs a trade, and very few 'open' doors are available to him
I must say, I really dislike getting the best player for worst player offer in a "payback" way. I recently received an offer of Ramon Martinez for Manny and Mariano Rivera because the GM thought my offer of Valverde for V. Wells was preposterous. In that case, the guy said he wanted a closer and because of the league settings I have Wells rated at the value of a mid-level closer. He obviously uses a different valuation method, one that is wrong in my opinion given the league rules. In any event, even if my offer stunk, why not take the concept of a closer for an outfielder and work with that? He could have said I don't like Valverde, but I do like Rivera, how about Rivera for Wells. In any event, if you must do the "payback" trade offer, please make sure there is no angle under which the trade could be viewed as reasonable. People can and do value players differently. In addition, the payback offer does nothing to foster good relations in the league, so why do it?
If it's a rookie who doesn't know what he's doing, I explain to him why it's not a fair trade and counter if I'm interested
If it's someone trying to see if I'm a rookie and screw me out of a good player, I counter by offering my worst player for 8 or 10 of his best players.
Still holds the MLB record for Grand Slams with 23
dannahann wrote:Maybe my take is slanted because I play in private keeper leagues, but responding in kind just to show you were pissed pretty much 'locks' a potential trade door. I normally try to strike up a constructive dialouge where we honestly assess our needs and often end up will a beneficial deal out of the process. If not immediately, then almost certainly down the road when that guy actually needs a trade, and very few 'open' doors are available to him
I agree. Don't burn bridges... try to negotiate. If it doesn't work, just pull out gracefully. You want to be around when that guy is stumbling and is willing to do the trade you want.