Bribery and Trades. how far would you go?

[matmat]

<EDIT> No. I am not doing any of these. I can see how 1 & 2 are considered collusion and I agree, but do you really think that 3,4 and 5 are?
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I have several questions, mostly nosiness and curiosity, I have a feeling of what the answers I will get will be, but just want to see what others say.

1) have you ever, in a money league, had a trade involve money? let me clarify -- I know that some cash leagues involve fees for transactions (this includes trades), but have you ever seen a: I'll give you player A and $X for player B trade? Does it make a difference if it is a keeper league?
<EDIT> verdict : collusion! <\EDIT>

2) in free leagues with nothing but bragging rights on the table, have you ever seen a trade of the "I'll trade you player A and a dinner for player B" variety?
<EDIT> verdict : collusion! <\EDIT>

3) in keeper salary cap leagues, have you ever seen a trade where part of a salary would go to the other team, like it sometimes happens in real baseball? For example... I'll give you stud A that costs $50 but I'll pay $30 of his salary if you give me these N prospects... thus raising one team's salary above their original cap and lowering another.

4) I know there are people out there that trade round picks in keepers (not all leagues allow it, but some do). Have you ever had a conditional trade, for example: I'll trade you player A and next year's draft pick for player B. if player B goes 20-20-.270 It'll be a 4th rd pick; 25-25-.280 -- 3rd rd, etc.

5) has anyone EVER played in crossover leagues with the same owners. for example... trading, say, pujols for priest holmes, or arod for shaq/kobe etc. Kind of 'mogul' leagues... I guess these might be fun with combined salary caps too...

6) any other weird/interesting trade scenarios you can think of?

[beltrans_boy]

There's a term for that...

it's called collusion.

[Transmogrifier]

There's a term for that...

it's called collusion.

YUP and it is illegal. Don't do it.

It's the only reason I'd veto trades.

If it's outside the realm of the league (this doesn't count money within the league, i.e., salary cap money), then it's collusion.

I hope you're not doing this.

[matmat]

no, I am not doing any of this. (see edit(s) above).

Seriously though, I am more interested in your thoughts on 3,4 and 5 (possibly 6). . . how much would have to be written into the rules?

I am kinda interested in 5 -- the mulit-league set-up.
I was thinking in something along the lines of
MLB, NBA + NFL set-up (possibly+NHL). You get some fixed amount of cap money and get to draft in all three sports and try to stay under the cap. inter-sport trades would be allowed -- that kind of stuff.

[pibb55]

Well i have been a part of #2 before, it was a very small time trade that I was considering doing anyway, then my firend says "plus Ill bring you chinese food in 20 mins" and that made me hit the accept button haha. But I wouldnt do a ridiculous trade like Beltran for Gibbons with food added in